Questions About Israel You Can't Ask At Church

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mstansfield · 3/6/2025, 4:13:22 PM · permalink

You are correct.  I see prophecy in literal terms.  After all it was Isaiah that tell Judah more than a century before their exile that Israel would return.   
  
Let this Jew write a poem about my Arab brother Israel:    
  
My little brother where for art thou

A Lament by Michael the son of Enoch

My little brother… the dreamer. My heart sinks over you… my legs give way. From our father’s house you came to me. It was I who sold you to Egypt. From the gold in our Father’s house I sold you to Aram. From the coffers in His Home I sold you to Assyria.

Three times I sold you. Oh my little brother your tribes are lost.

Our Father came asking, Judah have you seen your little brother?

I replied, “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

Our Father wept, “Your brother’s blood weeps from the ground where you murdered him!”

I went to him, but he refused to be comforted, calling out, “My son Israel, my firstborn son!” My Father’s Spirit left His House, and I was exiled from the Beautiful Land.

Mourned for you little brother, I did not.

I said in my heart my brother is gone; I shall claim his birthright. I returned to the House of my Father. I said, “Father I have prepared a sacrifice before you that I may receive my inheritance.”

But our Father replied, “Who was it that was just here? I have made him many nations from the Nile to the Euphrates. I have spread him to the east and the west. Out of the barren womb of Sarah, Rebecca, and Rachel, I have made him a people like the stars of the sky. I have given everything to him and have nothing left for you!”

When I saw my father had accepted my little brother’s sacrifice over mine, I was enraged and would not look upon you as my little brother. Our Father saw my heart, put his arm around me, “My son your hate has blinded you, otherwise you might see with your eyes, hear with your ears, understand with your heart, and turn and be healed. Recall all the stories I told you of my love for your little brother? Remember when I sent my servant to you with the command love one another? Now come and celebrate with us! Embrace him, for your lost brother is found! He was dead and is now alive!”

Oh my little brother Israel, it is written that when you were a child I hated you in this way, not a kind word could I say about you, so our Father warned me, if you bless him you will be blessed, but if you curse him you will be cursed. If only I had listened to my Father’s servant, judge and you will be judged, forgive and you will be forgiven. Was it not I your older brother who was responsible for you? Was It not I who was your keeper?

But who was I?

In my wrath and jealousy, it was I who handed you over to our eldest brother Adam who put you on the cross in the valley of Megiddo… the one holding the blood-stained robe in the fields of the Armageddon. Praise to my Father who raised my little brother, his son Israel from the dead. As for me I was exiled from the millennial reign my Father prepared. Now here am I kneeling before you on the day of judgement just as you dreamt. So I put on my Levitical robes and knelt before my Father, “The fault is mine and mine alone let the sin of humanity fall upon me!” And I took upon myself the sin of the world and laid it upon the Lamb that was slain, and my great debt was forgiven.

My little Arab brother Joseph, is it really you, the one I sold?

My little Arab brother embraced me, “What you meant for evil God has used for good!” Then he took me by the hand, “Come and join me in Paradise.”

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mstansfield · 3/6/2025, 4:51:06 PM · permalink

Amen.  Growing up it seems in Bible study the correct answer that they were looking for was always Jesus.  Anything outside of Jesus in the Bible was treated as unimportant.  I remember asking questions about the Old Testament in Church and being told that is not important, it has passed away, all that matters is Jesus.  So much of the Bible is thrown away under such logic.  I read the verses in the Bible about how it was promised to Joseph that the Sun, Moon, and Stars would all bow to him and because of this his brother wanted to kill him and could not say a kind word to him.  Here we are thousands of years later and growing up every week at church I have never heard them say a kind word about an Arab or a Muslim and the Bible says if you hate your brother in your heart it is the same as if you have murdered him.  There came a point where I was convicted.  So now I will proclaim God's love over my Arab brother.  And I will lift up the broken sticks Jew and Arab and make them one as a testimony of what God is about to do.  
  
15 The word of the Lord came to me: 16 “Son of man, take a stick\[d\] and write on it, ‘For Judah, and the people of Israel associated with him’; then take another stick and write on it, ‘For Joseph (the stick of Ephraim) and all the house of Israel associated with him.’ 17 And join them one to another into one stick, that they may become one in your hand. 18 And when your people say to you, ‘Will you not tell us what you mean by these?’ 19 say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am about to take the stick of Joseph (that is in the hand of Ephraim) and the tribes of Israel associated with him. And I will join with it the stick of Judah,\[e\] and make them one stick, that they may be one in my hand. 20 When the sticks on which you write are in your hand before their eyes, 21 then say to them, Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will take the people of Israel from the nations among which they have gone, and will gather them from all around, and bring them to their own land. 22 And I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. And one king shall be king over them all, and they shall be no longer two nations, and no longer divided into two kingdoms. 23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols and their detestable things, or with any of their transgressions. But I will save them from all the backslidings\[f\] in which they have sinned, and will cleanse them; and they shall be my people, and I will be their God. Ez 37:15-23.

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The closest thing to the AntiChrist humanity has had yet!

37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.”

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would\[c\] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” John 8:37-47  
  
9 And do not think you can say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I tell you that out of these stones God can raise up children for Abraham. 10 The ax is already at the root of the trees, and every tree that does not produce good fruit will be cut down and thrown into the fire. Matthew 3:9-10.

37 I know that you are Abraham’s descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word. 38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father’s presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.”

39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.

“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would\[c\] do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”

“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” John 8:37-47

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