McDonalds Coffee end of Civilization Theory

ezdoesit · 2/22/2025, 5:38:33 AM · permalink

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logical · 3/9/2025, 6:03:51 AM · permalink

**Clarification\*\*\*\*\*\*\***  I understand this poor old woman poured coffee on herself and suffered serious burns.  I choose not to weaponize empathy.  
  
My point here is to show everyone that legal precedent and regulation is harmful to society, and possibly the end of civilization.    
  
Do you **Carry a thermostat** around with you at all times when ordering coffee?  
How will you %%prove%% the temperature of the coffee you've spilled onto yourself was **"Too Hot"**  
and who decides what is "Too Hot"  
  
This McDonalds had been using the same coffee maker for years with no issue.  1 Problem occurs, and now we have a system where you can still burn yourself from McDonalds coffee and not sue.  **An employee** can still make a %%mistake%%, the %%coffee machine%% can still **malfunction**, you can **still burn** yourself with coffee.  But you can no longer sue McDonalds unless you carry a thermostat, and document yourself receiving the coffee and using an accurate thermostat to measure its temp.  
  
*Why?*  
  
**Government Regulation** and legal **precedent**.   
  
Now unless you can PROVE that the coffee was "Irregularly hot" how could you defend yourself against being burned?  This event began a cascading set of bubble wrapping of society and anti-freedom regulations.  At least in my opinion.  
  
and of course, just take accountability for your mistakes, not blame McDonalds lol.  The kid should have been helping his grandma with the coffee it's not worth millions of dollars and the degradation of society.  The McDonalds franchise owner should have been more understanding and helpful with the old ladies medical bills.  But I ask anyone if you were a Franchise owner of a local small business McDonalds, and some lady came in asking for $20,000 after she spilt coffee on herself, what would your response be?  
  
Where does the bubble wrapping of society end?  
  
and obviously i am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, why would you try to get legal advice on a shitpost 🤣  
  
^ps dont eat McDonalds either way lol^

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seathesailor · 3/10/2025, 2:23:12 AM · permalink

no i get your point (it's pretty common) cliche natural law or extreme libertarian argument heard time and again, which in itself is just another utopian fantasy to end discussions...  
  
seems like this is one instance where the legal remedy came through for this long-dead old lady's family - Obviously at some level you have to acknowledge some level of social hierarchy and organization must exist. Adamant as I am about 2a and the U.S. constitution, No one's going to come save our rights %%if we give dunce caps%% to the few people willing to push back when assholes in government or in corporate go too far. Shaming the few people willing to stand up for themselves (whether you like them or not) isn't helpful.  
  
%%Did we as Americans lose out by this lady exercising perfectly legitimate tort claim?%%  Again, I'll have to devote 2 more brain cells the next time I hand 180+ degree fluids to a probably arthritic old lady with shaky grip, but I believe no we didn't lose &amp; benefited as a society - by showing that even McDonalds can be sued.  
  
***My reply statement was that your OP argument is just parroting literal corporate propaganda that's been implanted in the American public since we were kids.*** *You don't think the Operational Risk Management given by corporate to this branch was that if they settled in arbitration for pittance of what Ms. L origionally asked for they'd be opening the door to risk*? That there was then a huge P.R. campaign from corporate and effort launched to essentially rig future jury's against more Ms. Lz?  
  
%%Do "too many frivolous lawsuits exist"?%% Probably, remember when they used to tell us too see how big the lawyer section in phone books was, and the term "ambulance chaser"? However, that's how America operates. We have imperfect business and justice systems and thus depend on imperfect legal and gov systems for some limited redress.  
  
%%But what if community locked arms and banded together in protest of the poop weird restaurant%%? Buddy this is 2024, there's rarely any community anywhere in America, and this is even worse now than in the 90s. People are gonna keep taking that shitty food McDonalds food if it economically meets the bare minimum of sustenance on commute to job they hate to afford life, home, vehicle, and family they are at work all day to not enjoy. *Alternatively, have you been to foreign McDonald's? - go to one it's quickly pretty obvious Yum Brands and MCD hate Americans.*  
  
  
  
Are you in the 2a community? Our society is a balance between those that complain, and those that don't complain... and if you have rights you don't exercise we end up having victims like Dexter Taylor, and entire regions of country like Coastal WA, CA, MA, OR, NJ, NYC, etc

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