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6/24/2025, 10:48:02 AM
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babyvaso
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6/24/2025, 11:41:26 AM
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You don't have to know Islamic history to see what's clearly happening. Every group has their extremist sects who believe THEIR interpretation of the Faith is the correct one and all else are Blasphemers. For example, Imagine if Russia poured billions into Antifa or the Westboro Baptist Church or God forsake the Presbyterian Church to help topple America, imagine what they'd do to their enemies. That is how the West uses militant groups to paint all Islam in a bad light. Anyone who thinks radical Islamist were inspired by the Quran is no different than a radical leftist.
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6/24/2025, 10:59:48 AM
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%%Koran's View of Jesus%% Jesus is regarded as an important prophet in Islam, and his story is recounted in the Quran. Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the son of God, but they do revere him as a holy prophet. The Quran describes Jesus as the Messiah (al-Masīḥ), born of a virgin, performing miracles, and accompanied by his disciples. It also states that Jesus was not crucified, but was miraculously saved by God and ascended into heaven. The Quran emphasizes the monotheism (tawḥīd) of Jesus, and like all prophets in Islam, he is also called a Muslim (lit. submitter \[to God\]), as he preached that his followers should adopt the 'straight path' (Ṣirāṭ al-Mustaqīm). In Islamic eschatology, most accounts state that Jesus will return in the Second Coming to kill the Al-Masih ad-Dajjal ('The False Messiah'), after which the ancient tribe of Gog and Magog (Yaʾjūj Maʾjūj) will disperse. The Quran attributes at least six miracles to Jesus, with many more being added over the centuries by writers and historians. AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts. %%Torah View of Jesus%% The Torah itself does not mention Jesus directly, as it predates his life by several centuries. According to Jewish tradition, the Torah is the foundational text of Judaism, containing the laws and teachings given to Moses on Mount Sinai. It does not provide any information about Jesus or his teachings. In the context of Jewish beliefs, the Torah does not recognize Jesus as a prophet, the Messiah, or the Son of God. Instead, Judaism views Jesus as a historical figure who did not fulfill the criteria for the Messiah as outlined in the Torah and Jewish eschatology. The Torah and the subsequent Jewish texts, such as the Talmud, do not support the Christian beliefs about Jesus. The Talmud, which is a central text of Rabbinic Judaism, contains references to Jesus, but these references are not complimentary. For example, the Talmudic tractate Sanhedrin mentions that Yeshu the Nazarene was hung on the eve of Passover for the crime of leading Jews astray. However, it is important to note that these references have been subject to various interpretations and have been altered or excised in some versions of the Talmud. In summary, the Torah does not provide a view of Jesus, as it does not mention him. The Jewish perspective, as derived from the Torah and other Jewish texts, does not recognize Jesus as a prophet or the Messiah, and it rejects the Christian notion of Jesus as the Son of God. The Jewish view of Jesus is shaped by the belief that he did not fulfill the messianic prophecies and that his teachings and actions were not in line with Jewish law and tradition. AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
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gracejoy
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6/24/2025, 3:56:40 PM
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Both are blasphemous in regards to Jesus in the NT. Both have the death penalty for declaring Jesus as God in the flesh.
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q2025
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6/24/2025, 10:36:54 PM
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Hi Grace. Just wanted to clarify that there's no death penalty for blasphemy or heresy or believing in Jesus as a God, in Islam. The idea that Islam teaches us to kill people who turn to christ was misinformation spread to create fear and division.  You can check it yourself as well at quran.com and type in blasphemy, apostasy or Jesus in the search bar. It will show you every verse where Jesus or Blasphemy are mentioned and you can see that there's no such thing. I am aware that Christians and converts have been targeted in some Muslim communities and that is sad and evil. However, those incidents have always been motivated by political and economic factors, even if it was *claimed* that they were done for religious reasons. I'm sure you understand that the actions of individuals or isolated communities that have taken things out of context cannot be attributed to the real religion. Bush lied about WMD and bombed Iraq and called it a crusade. Millions supported him. But it would be wrong to say that "Christianity" was at fault or that "Christianity" supports lying and killing a million innocent people just because "Christians" supported and conducted the war. Millions of women were killed for being witches by the church. Even in that case, you can attribute the crime to ignorance, societal stupidity or even to "Christians" but not to "Christianity" because the Bible does NOT teach us to murder innocent women on suspicion. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions or if you want more proof or clarification. I think its important to fight the propaganda and the stereotypes and to fight for the truth. Peace 🙏
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gracejoy
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6/26/2025, 6:35:48 PM
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Your Wiki quote: "*Some Islamic scholars interpret ... but there's no concensus*..." As in, some say it's OK. . "*there's no death penalty for...*" It seems to me that if there's a death penalty for insulting Mohammed, there would be one for insulting Allah. To disbelieve what's written in the Quran is to disbelieve what Allah revealed to Mohammed through the angel Gabriel. How could there not be a death penalty for idolatry? Muhammed, Messenger of Allah: Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad. By Qadi ‘Iyad ibn Musa al-Yahsubi. Part Four, Section One: "The [Judgement of the Shari'a](https://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec1.htm) regarding someone who curses or disparages the Prophet. ...He is killed as we shall make clear. This judgement extends to anything which amounts to a curse or disparagement. We have no hesitation concerning this matter, be it a clear statement or allusion." . "*...Christians & converts ... targeted in some Muslim communities ... motivated by political & economic factors ... \[not\] the real religion*." That's a loaded statement. I both agree & disagree, there are so many factors, including what you mentioned, & bad actors. My first instinct, though, was to list some history of Muslims warring against, & enslaving non-Muslims, as workers, s\*x slaves, & soldiers. If you want, I'll add the info; but my point is only that it was allowed b/c it's in the Quran; & Mohammed traded in slaves won in war. I don't mean to minimize what others did, only to say it's permissible in Islam. . "*Bush lied ... crusade. ...\[can't say\] "Christianity" was at fault ... b/c 'Christians' . war.*" I agree; & will add that he's a Sociopath, complicit in 911 as excuse to steal land & resources in the M.E., & to accelerate the dismantling of Americans' Constitutional right to privacy, etc. I won't start listing the crimes committed by his father & grandfather; but I will say that their actions were anathema to the NT & Jesus. Re "Chr\*stians" who support such things, the ones I've met online are hypocrites in other ways, too. "Crusade" is a Catholic term. I'm not well-versed in the Catholic Church; but I know it was mixed up with the Roman Empire; & is Satanic in countless ways: The Pope's Audience Hall being designed to look like a snake's head, inside & out, is an example.  . "*Millions of women were killed \[as\] witches by the church. ... \[b/c\] ignorance, societal stupidity ... b/c the Bible does NOT teach \[that\].*" Per Wiki, from 40K - 4 million. Sorcery's condemned in the OT: but was regularly employed by the Israelites; & seems inherent in Kabbalah. It's warned against in the NT, as is Pharmakeia, controlled today by the demon Rockefeller's Medical & Drug Industries. It's certainly not in the NT or Constitution to arrest, let alone kill witches, yet USA is being taken over by Luciferians & every evil imaginable. It's now mainstream, in top [movies & music](https://vigilantcitizen.com/) videos; Superbowl 1/2 shows; Olympic opening ceremonies; Gotthard Tunnel opening ritual; the Shiva statue outside CERN; & Disney. Celebrities use the foreskin of circumcized babies for facials; & the wealthy get transfusions of young blood for the adrenochrome to keep them young. The Satanic Temple sues states to allow abortion as a religious ritual; stories are rampant about elite movie stars & politicians engaging in Satanic Ritual Abuse & sacrifice; & witches like Marina Abramovich are feted by celebrities like Lady Gaga & Jay Z; philanthropists like Bill Gates; & the upper crust like Lord Jacob [Rothschild](https://hiddenscience.org/marina-abramovic-endorsed-by-bill-gates-jacob-rothschild-virtual-reality-rituals/). This is a whole other topic, though, that I have no desire to continue here. The world belongs to Satan now; & the elite use the Bible as their gameplan, actively bringing about End Times as per Revelation. Sociopathic pols pose as Christians; work behind the scenes to make the world literal hell; & are preparing to trap our souls for eternity in the guise of living forever. They tell us their plans, as Occultists must, so we won't be shocked when we see it unfold. Then there's [Project Bluebeam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaaGvq2mcR0), a PsyOp involving UFOs, to usher us into the NWO. I agree it's important to fight the propaganda & the stereotypes & to fight for the truth. That said, I have no desire to live under the Sharia; & Islam is not the peaceful religion you claim it to be, or men wouldn't be able to point to the Quran & Mohammed as excuse. Christianity, OTOH, is the perfect hiding place for pedophiles & psychopaths. Regardless, there's no reconciling the two religions, as Jesus being a prophet is blasphemy to Christians; & His being God is blashemy to Muslims. If we don't agree to disagree, the only option is the One World Religion, as told in Revelation. Already, Yuval Harari wants AI to create a new, perfect, inclusive one; & the mixing has already begun with the [Abrahamic Family House](https://www.forhumanfraternity.org/) in Abu Dhabi, with Jesus erased. Man is wicked beyond measure, greedy, violent, murderous, blasphemus. As Hellish as the elite have made the world, the nightmarish future they have planned, I look forward to God's wrath burning everything. I guess we're both waiting for Jesus, we'll see when the time comes which version of Him arrives. Sorry for the dark turn, it grew from the witchcraft. I don't know how to end this, so... Peace 🙏
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q2025
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6/27/2025, 4:56:56 AM
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Peace upon you too Grace. John 8:44 does NOT ask Christians to murder jews, but throughout history its been used to do that, repeatedly, extensively. Even recently. So much so that the Pope had to issue a [clarification](https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2024-12/john-8-44-frequently-misunderstood-verse-pope-francis.html). Im sure you would agree that God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost and the Bible are not responsible for humans taking words out of context, or twisting them to their own advantage, or misusing Scripture for their own agenda. It's not logical to judge God or Christianity by the actions of some people, just because they call themselves "Christians" or cite biblical text. Nazis, European Colonisers, KKK and the Crusaders would be just a few examples. All used, no, misused the Bible, but all of them were pushing a personal agendas. I'll just repeat that there's no death penalty for blasphemy in the Quran. That's a confirmed fact, and it's easily proven. If some idiots calling themselves muslism, or scholars misuse the Quran for their personal agenda... that's their personal evil on display. As far as the Quran is concerned, it's very clear... God will punish or forgive whoever he wants. There's no humanly punishment imposed, or even suggested for blasphemy. If anyone does so, it is not Islamic, no matter what the paid "scholars" say. We can read, we dont need them to tell us to believe the opposite of whats in text so they can divide us. 🙏 As for your other point about Christians finding it blasphemous to consider Jesus a prophet and Muslims finding it blasphemous to call him a God... yes, you're right. But lets put it in perspective a little. Jews, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists, Agnostics etc give him Zero respect. At least muslims respect him and pray for him and bless him. The more devout the muslim the more he sends blessings and prayers for Jesus; I do it 5 times a day, every single day. Do you know many Christians who send blessings upon Jesus 5 times every single day day? At least Muslims add a 'peace upon him' every time we mention his name, something that even Christians dont even do. Muslims might not pray to Jesus, but we do pray for him and love and respect him Can we maybe get a few points for that? 😊 Respect
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tajudeen_bin_tijani
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6/27/2025, 7:12:43 AM
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The God of 'No Compulsion' (in religion, worldview etc.) will ultimately judge our disputes on Who He is, and what He has told us to do. Neither Judaism, Christianity nor Islam is a monolith. Those who are yet to understand this will have a preference for a One World Religion, and it will have to be coerced, compelled, controlled etc. #Bible Joshua 24:14-15 ‘Now fear the Lord and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your ancestors worshipped beyond the River Euphrates and in Egypt, and serve the Lord. But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.’ #Quran chp 10 ver 99 Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers? chp 2 ver 256 There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. chp 3 ver 104 Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good, advocate righteousness, and forbid evil. These are the winners.
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child_of_abba
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6/24/2025, 11:08:21 AM
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I have to go let the chickens out and feed and water them, but according to Sheikh Imran Hosein, he says thay Jesus appeared to die on the cross because Allah took his soul (ascended to heaven) and the returned his soul 3 days later. I have heard some Rabbis claim that Mary was a whore and Jesus was the son of one of the Roman soldiers. Jesus performed witchcraft and is boiling in human excrement. I'll try to remember later to ask questions and see what the AI comes up with.
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6/24/2025, 9:26:19 PM
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In the Talmud they call her Miriam, and they either call her a hairdresser, or a whore. They call Jesus Yeshu, and speak very ill of him.
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child_of_abba
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6/25/2025, 2:50:24 PM
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If I remember correctly Yeshu means let his name be blotted. I'll try to look it up later.
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6/25/2025, 7:59:43 PM
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Yup! Yimach Shemo V'Zichro 'May his name and memory be blotted out'
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6/25/2025, 5:29:55 PM
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I saw this being reported. This has been happening throughout Northern Africa. Our Coptic brothers and sisters are being martyred. We are called to not only pray for the departed souls, but for the conversion of souls for those persecuting the innocent. I have been advised by my priest that we are more closely related to our Muslim brothers and sisters, because they recognised Jesus as a prophet as well as the significance of Mother Mary and St. John the Baptist. I remember when attending a daily Mass one day and a priest complimented the zeal our Muslim family had in terms of pray and devotion. We need to remember we are created equal, are all sinners and in need of mercy. God bless.
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q2025
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6/25/2025, 10:04:19 PM
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It's excruciatingly painful to see that the New Testament and the Quran both preach peace and harmony, but some priests and clerics preach hate, because they are politicians in disguise. Makes me all the more thankful for priests like yours, who stay true to the original word. We respect all the prophets from Adam till Jesus like Christians do but also Muhammad, peace upon them all. And most Christians won't believe this but Jesus is mentioned by name 23 times in the Quran while Muhammad is mentioned only 4 times by name. Mary is mentioned by name 19 times in the New Testament and 34 times in the Quran, with the entire 19th chapter being named after the virgin Mary. I'll link the chapter called Maryam below, just in case you want to hear it for yourself. May all the righteous live in Peace, Love and Respect 🙏 
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6/26/2025, 5:36:46 AM
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I remember you posting this a while back. Was beautiful. Not sure if I mentioned this previously, but my priest friend is a Franciscan and representing South Africa in the Holy Land. They fund schools is Jerusalem for children of all Faiths and he sent me a video of these beautiful children singing a beautiful hymn in Arabic of our Blessed Mother, it brought me to tears even though I had no idea of what was being sung. He also brought to my attention the musical school there training youths of all Faiths in classical music, can't remember the name of hand but the focus was building cohesiveness amoung all regardless of the divisions being pushed on us.
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6/26/2025, 6:12:00 AM
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I remember! I've noticed a simple fact... if you truly love and understand God, you'll be humane and love humanity. People who don't understand and love God, will kill and destroy in the name of God, but its always to fulfill their personal agendas, not to seek the pleasure of God. No soul ever killed an innocent when pleasing God was the intention. Respect. Prayers 🙏
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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6/25/2025, 2:01:53 PM
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Hey.... don't worry, the good guys have a guy in there.... he'll help sort it, I'm sure.....  🙄🤦♂️
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6/25/2025, 2:13:44 PM
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Hold on to that The wanted poster for Ben Guion now sells for $500 om [Getty](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/ten-of-the-most-wanted-men-in-palestine-a-police-poster-news-photo/3100174) 
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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6/25/2025, 3:04:17 PM
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Oh dear.... that is how it goes usually unfortunately.... one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
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6/25/2025, 3:14:20 PM
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Ive heard that often and its mostly true... But does that adage hold true if you're a foreigner fighting for the cause of the colonists, or is it only true if you're fighting for or on behalf the indigenous?
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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6/25/2025, 4:08:51 PM
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Always the latter.... 🙏
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