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q2025
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6/24/2025, 10:36:54 PM
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Hi Grace. Just wanted to clarify that there's no death penalty for blasphemy or heresy or believing in Jesus as a God, in Islam. The idea that Islam teaches us to kill people who turn to christ was misinformation spread to create fear and division.  You can check it yourself as well at quran.com and type in blasphemy, apostasy or Jesus in the search bar. It will show you every verse where Jesus or Blasphemy are mentioned and you can see that there's no such thing. I am aware that Christians and converts have been targeted in some Muslim communities and that is sad and evil. However, those incidents have always been motivated by political and economic factors, even if it was *claimed* that they were done for religious reasons. I'm sure you understand that the actions of individuals or isolated communities that have taken things out of context cannot be attributed to the real religion. Bush lied about WMD and bombed Iraq and called it a crusade. Millions supported him. But it would be wrong to say that "Christianity" was at fault or that "Christianity" supports lying and killing a million innocent people just because "Christians" supported and conducted the war. Millions of women were killed for being witches by the church. Even in that case, you can attribute the crime to ignorance, societal stupidity or even to "Christians" but not to "Christianity" because the Bible does NOT teach us to murder innocent women on suspicion. Please feel free to let me know if you have any questions or if you want more proof or clarification. I think its important to fight the propaganda and the stereotypes and to fight for the truth. Peace 🙏
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6/26/2025, 6:35:48 PM
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Your Wiki quote: "*Some Islamic scholars interpret ... but there's no concensus*..." As in, some say it's OK. . "*there's no death penalty for...*" It seems to me that if there's a death penalty for insulting Mohammed, there would be one for insulting Allah. To disbelieve what's written in the Quran is to disbelieve what Allah revealed to Mohammed through the angel Gabriel. How could there not be a death penalty for idolatry? Muhammed, Messenger of Allah: Ash-Shifa of Qadi ‘Iyad. By Qadi ‘Iyad ibn Musa al-Yahsubi. Part Four, Section One: "The [Judgement of the Shari'a](https://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec1.htm) regarding someone who curses or disparages the Prophet. ...He is killed as we shall make clear. This judgement extends to anything which amounts to a curse or disparagement. We have no hesitation concerning this matter, be it a clear statement or allusion." . "*...Christians & converts ... targeted in some Muslim communities ... motivated by political & economic factors ... \[not\] the real religion*." That's a loaded statement. I both agree & disagree, there are so many factors, including what you mentioned, & bad actors. My first instinct, though, was to list some history of Muslims warring against, & enslaving non-Muslims, as workers, s\*x slaves, & soldiers. If you want, I'll add the info; but my point is only that it was allowed b/c it's in the Quran; & Mohammed traded in slaves won in war. I don't mean to minimize what others did, only to say it's permissible in Islam. . "*Bush lied ... crusade. ...\[can't say\] "Christianity" was at fault ... b/c 'Christians' . war.*" I agree; & will add that he's a Sociopath, complicit in 911 as excuse to steal land & resources in the M.E., & to accelerate the dismantling of Americans' Constitutional right to privacy, etc. I won't start listing the crimes committed by his father & grandfather; but I will say that their actions were anathema to the NT & Jesus. Re "Chr\*stians" who support such things, the ones I've met online are hypocrites in other ways, too. "Crusade" is a Catholic term. I'm not well-versed in the Catholic Church; but I know it was mixed up with the Roman Empire; & is Satanic in countless ways: The Pope's Audience Hall being designed to look like a snake's head, inside & out, is an example.  . "*Millions of women were killed \[as\] witches by the church. ... \[b/c\] ignorance, societal stupidity ... b/c the Bible does NOT teach \[that\].*" Per Wiki, from 40K - 4 million. Sorcery's condemned in the OT: but was regularly employed by the Israelites; & seems inherent in Kabbalah. It's warned against in the NT, as is Pharmakeia, controlled today by the demon Rockefeller's Medical & Drug Industries. It's certainly not in the NT or Constitution to arrest, let alone kill witches, yet USA is being taken over by Luciferians & every evil imaginable. It's now mainstream, in top [movies & music](https://vigilantcitizen.com/) videos; Superbowl 1/2 shows; Olympic opening ceremonies; Gotthard Tunnel opening ritual; the Shiva statue outside CERN; & Disney. Celebrities use the foreskin of circumcized babies for facials; & the wealthy get transfusions of young blood for the adrenochrome to keep them young. The Satanic Temple sues states to allow abortion as a religious ritual; stories are rampant about elite movie stars & politicians engaging in Satanic Ritual Abuse & sacrifice; & witches like Marina Abramovich are feted by celebrities like Lady Gaga & Jay Z; philanthropists like Bill Gates; & the upper crust like Lord Jacob [Rothschild](https://hiddenscience.org/marina-abramovic-endorsed-by-bill-gates-jacob-rothschild-virtual-reality-rituals/). This is a whole other topic, though, that I have no desire to continue here. The world belongs to Satan now; & the elite use the Bible as their gameplan, actively bringing about End Times as per Revelation. Sociopathic pols pose as Christians; work behind the scenes to make the world literal hell; & are preparing to trap our souls for eternity in the guise of living forever. They tell us their plans, as Occultists must, so we won't be shocked when we see it unfold. Then there's [Project Bluebeam](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaaGvq2mcR0), a PsyOp involving UFOs, to usher us into the NWO. I agree it's important to fight the propaganda & the stereotypes & to fight for the truth. That said, I have no desire to live under the Sharia; & Islam is not the peaceful religion you claim it to be, or men wouldn't be able to point to the Quran & Mohammed as excuse. Christianity, OTOH, is the perfect hiding place for pedophiles & psychopaths. Regardless, there's no reconciling the two religions, as Jesus being a prophet is blasphemy to Christians; & His being God is blashemy to Muslims. If we don't agree to disagree, the only option is the One World Religion, as told in Revelation. Already, Yuval Harari wants AI to create a new, perfect, inclusive one; & the mixing has already begun with the [Abrahamic Family House](https://www.forhumanfraternity.org/) in Abu Dhabi, with Jesus erased. Man is wicked beyond measure, greedy, violent, murderous, blasphemus. As Hellish as the elite have made the world, the nightmarish future they have planned, I look forward to God's wrath burning everything. I guess we're both waiting for Jesus, we'll see when the time comes which version of Him arrives. Sorry for the dark turn, it grew from the witchcraft. I don't know how to end this, so... Peace 🙏
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6/27/2025, 4:56:56 AM
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Peace upon you too Grace. John 8:44 does NOT ask Christians to murder jews, but throughout history its been used to do that, repeatedly, extensively. Even recently. So much so that the Pope had to issue a [clarification](https://www.vaticannews.va/en/church/news/2024-12/john-8-44-frequently-misunderstood-verse-pope-francis.html). Im sure you would agree that God, Jesus, the Holy Ghost and the Bible are not responsible for humans taking words out of context, or twisting them to their own advantage, or misusing Scripture for their own agenda. It's not logical to judge God or Christianity by the actions of some people, just because they call themselves "Christians" or cite biblical text. Nazis, European Colonisers, KKK and the Crusaders would be just a few examples. All used, no, misused the Bible, but all of them were pushing a personal agendas. I'll just repeat that there's no death penalty for blasphemy in the Quran. That's a confirmed fact, and it's easily proven. If some idiots calling themselves muslism, or scholars misuse the Quran for their personal agenda... that's their personal evil on display. As far as the Quran is concerned, it's very clear... God will punish or forgive whoever he wants. There's no humanly punishment imposed, or even suggested for blasphemy. If anyone does so, it is not Islamic, no matter what the paid "scholars" say. We can read, we dont need them to tell us to believe the opposite of whats in text so they can divide us. 🙏 As for your other point about Christians finding it blasphemous to consider Jesus a prophet and Muslims finding it blasphemous to call him a God... yes, you're right. But lets put it in perspective a little. Jews, Hindus, Atheists, Buddhists, Agnostics etc give him Zero respect. At least muslims respect him and pray for him and bless him. The more devout the muslim the more he sends blessings and prayers for Jesus; I do it 5 times a day, every single day. Do you know many Christians who send blessings upon Jesus 5 times every single day day? At least Muslims add a 'peace upon him' every time we mention his name, something that even Christians dont even do. Muslims might not pray to Jesus, but we do pray for him and love and respect him Can we maybe get a few points for that? 😊 Respect
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6/27/2025, 7:12:43 AM
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The God of 'No Compulsion' (in religion, worldview etc.) will ultimately judge our disputes on Who He is, and what He has told us to do. Neither Judaism, Christianity nor Islam is a monolith. Those who are yet to understand this will have a preference for a One World Religion, and it will have to be coerced, compelled, controlled etc. #Bible Joshua 24:14-15 ‘Now fear the Lord and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your ancestors worshipped beyond the River Euphrates and in Egypt, and serve the Lord. But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.’ #Quran chp 10 ver 99 Had your Lord willed, all the people on earth would have believed. Do you want to force the people to become believers? chp 2 ver 256 There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient. chp 3 ver 104 Let there be a community of you who invite to what is good, advocate righteousness, and forbid evil. These are the winners.
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