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3/3/2025, 3:09:18 AM
Gog and Magog - Turkiye?
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q2025
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3/17/2025, 4:13:56 PM
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Muslims don't know the exact place or even the exact slot within the end of times when Gog and Magog will come, but I have a theory that Gog n Magog will arise out of Indonesia, based on the Quran verses (18:90-97): 90\*Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had not made against it any shield.\* 91 \*Thus. And We had encompassed \[all\] that he had in knowledge.\* 92 \*Then he followed a way.\* 93 \*Until, when he reached \[a pass\] between two mountains, he found beside them a people who could hardly understand \[his\] speech.\* 94 \*They said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, indeed Gog and Magog are \[great\] corrupters in the land. So may we assign for you an expenditure that you might make between us and them a barrier?"\* 95 \*He said, "That in which my Lord has established me is better \[than what you offer\], but assist me with strength; I will make between you and them a dam.\* 96 \*Bring me sheets of iron" – until, when he had leveled \[them\] between the two mountain walls, he said, "Blow \[with bellows\]," until when he had made it \[like\] fire, he said, "Bring me, that I may pour over it molten copper."\* 97 \*So they \[Gog and Magog\] were unable to pass over it, nor were they able \[to effect\] in it any penetration.\* To me, the place of the rising of the sun and the land of the people who had no protection against the sun sounds like a description of Australia with its massive ozone hole. 94-96, people who had a very different speech, a dam built of molten copper And iron between 2 mountains fits description of the Grasberg mine in Indonesia. It's the largest copper mine in the world. They've been mining it for 50 years and the copper still isn't finished. It's not on wiki but if you go to the company reports, it mentions that copper in the region is in the form of Chalcopyrite, which is basically an iron-copper ore formed at extremely high temperatures.  Again, it's just a personal hunch; many other places might fit which we haven't found.
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carp30mnia
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3/3/2025, 4:41:29 PM
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My best guess is 3-for-1: what will end up happening is whatever fulfills as much of all 3 Abrahamic religions' prophecies/expectations as possible out of convenience...  Final Answer: The Antichrist, Dajjal, and False Messiah Likely Come from the Middle East (Most likely region based on overlap: Syria) \- The Antichrist's kingdom in Christian texts aligns with Syria. \- Dajjal’s emergence is between Syria and Iraq, but Syria is more central. \- The False Messiah would likely emerge near Israel, making Syria the closest major region. **As for what he might look like?**  Final Verdict: Most Likely Physical Traits --- The Antichrist/Dajjal/False Messiah would most likely appear as: ✔ A tall, broad-shouldered Middle Eastern man. ✔ One eye will be deformed or blind. ✔ Thick, curly hair. ✔ Highly charismatic but either deformed or unsettling in appearance. ✔ Speaks persuasively and commands a massive following. I tend to go for averages. I wouldn't rule out Turkey, but I'm on the lookout for a Syrian (2nd guess is Iraq)... and I expect false Bootleg-Jesus to look like a pirate. (*sorry he doesn't look unsettling enough lol)* 
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woo
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3/5/2025, 6:19:45 AM
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It's interesting that the book of Revelation mentions both an antichrist type figure and also a separate false prophet. They are mentioning specific 2 separate people as they are later thrown into the lake of fire. So there will be a religious false prophet and also a political king taking the stage. Revelation 19:20 NKJV \[20\] Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. https://bible.com/bible/114/rev.19.20.NKJV
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carp30mnia
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3/6/2025, 2:08:36 AM
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Oh good distinction I didn't know about! Thanks for clarifying. One potential candidate for the religious false prophet could be whoever comes after the current Pope Francis imo (who is dying from kidney failure). https://www.politico.eu/article/pope-francis-legacy-death-complex-italy-rome-health/ Others think Francis might be the last pope altogether based off the prophecies of St. Malachy and St. Nilus (https://qr.ae/pYzRM9). But most scholars consider those 2 forgeries and neither have been approved by the Church.
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3/6/2025, 10:02:07 AM
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Very high chance the false prophet is the next pope. The false prophet will work all sorts of miracles and mislead people. But modern science also could be seen as partly religious/miraculous. The false prophet will be able to call fire down from heaven. Frankly Elon Musk can call fire down from heaven at this point.
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user1999
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3/3/2025, 4:44:29 PM
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This is one of the best responses I have ever witnessed Saar. Thank you for it. Also, Kurt Russel /Alex Hermozi AC is what I needed to see today.
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3/5/2025, 6:15:01 AM
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Many scholars believe the "antichrist" will be born of the tribe of dan and born in Babylon, but I dont believe he has to be Jewish based on Scripture. Turkey/Russia or having some Hunnish origin isn't out of the question. He could also be Roman or represent the new Rome referenced in the book of Daniel, which is what the vatican/london/DC seems to be now. Some said Obama and some are saying Trump. One interesting thing to note about Gog and Magog, they are mentioned specifically in Revelation 20 and Ezekiel 38. Both of these are in reference to a time at around year 7000 (after the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ during the millennial reign). This is when Satan will be released from prison after being in chains for 1000 years. Ezekiel 36 talks about a gathering of Israel and there being peace for them and no idol worship for them anymore. Right now they have a huge Muslim golden dome temple sitting on the jerusalem holy temple mount, so Ezekiel 36 is for a future time during the 1000 year reign of Christ. Before then is desolations and Jerusalem is getting leveled to the ground. So Revelation 20 and Ezekiel 38 are important, but we are closer to Revelation 1-6 soon starting, which is before the gog and magog war, before the 1000 year reign of Jesus, before 7 bowl judgments, before 7 trumpet judgments, before 7 seal judgments. The bad stuff hasn't even remotely begun!
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user1999
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3/5/2025, 4:42:34 PM
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Nicely laid out! I'm getting my popcorn ready. Thanks for this breakdown.
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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3/3/2025, 3:17:08 AM
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The tribe believe it's him...  
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