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6\. Do you think Manson was shaped to be evil or was born evil? Is evil born or made? I think it's a mixture of both nurture and nature, but ultimately more nurture. He was supposedly raped by an older boy at one point and then he did the same thing to another younger boy. This kind of rape seems to be self-perpetuating. It is why Satanists love pedophilia. They are literally inflicting an evil mental scar upon an innocent, a scar with a tendency to be repeated by the receiver later in life. Being raped did not help his sanity, that is for sure. I wonder had he not been raped whether he would not have been so bad.  Add to that negligent parents and institutionalization and you have a recipe for disaster. So in a way I don't think evil babies are born so much as made through their life circumstances. Yet there is some level of choice ultimately as well. Not everyone who is raped repeats the pattern.   
  
But Manson didn't seem to be playing with a full deck either. Just look at pictures of him, he looks nuts. And it wasn't just the drugs given his history. Drugs just seemed to aggravate the evil and help him spread it by controlling others to also be evil. They harmed perfectly innocent people too. Like that Buddhist guy who was nice to them and that innocent young Italian guy who was charged as a suicide but then the author finds out was likely also killed by the family. This is indeed evil. The question is whether they were born that way or whether something happened to them to screw them up along the way (including drugs). I think it is more the later, though brain chemistry one is born with also has it's role.   
  
The weird thing is that someone so evil could have been perceived as charismatic. Would someone like you or I perceive him that way?  Do you think you would see through it? Was his charisma contingent on some evil in others? I think spiritual/religious people might be protected from the illusion that is his kind of charisma. I often see right through political figures that others are obsessed with.  
   
"Right after Vietnam, a time that changed the psyche of America, Manson brought the spectacle of death home. To me, essentially, the war created a tulpa" - interesting idea! and it was not a time of innocence. this country lost it's innocence a LONG time ago. The only war we were involved in that was just was the Revolutionary War. Every other war, including the Civil War, WWI and WWII were totally unjust. History is written by the victors and we've justified a lot of evil done.   
  
I am a revert to Islam, yes. And so I believe in Satan, as well as the Jinn (which can be demonic, though there are some that choose to submit to God and are thus saved in the end). But I feel like we are not so much born to evil as open up the gateway to it at some point. I also think people with terrible parents, the right brain chemistry and a traumatic past are more likely to be evil obviously. Almost "doomed" to be evil. This goes back to what I wrote on free will. Sometime's I think free will is very limited, to say the least. I'll post that again the next response as it applies to my thoughts on what makes someone evil.

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