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Parent Post: I believe religion is a next biggest hurdle for humanity to overcome.
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wassart
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4/2/2025, 4:40:29 PM
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You are confusing between Tribal traditions and religion here. The first Zinji (arabic for black) was liberated by the Prophet and his name was Bilal, he was the first one to call for prayer, and he is one of the 10 companions are were promised heaven in their lifetime. After that, the muslim world also had Byzantins, whites with blue eyes and blond hair as slaves. Besides, this tribal behavior was also present in Africa itself. It wasn't Arabs or Europeans venturing inside the jungle and savannah to get slaves. Other black Africans were doing that work. It was after the industrial revolution and the invention of the gun powder and guns that Europeans turned a tribal tradition into an industry. One of the saying of the first Khalif of Islam, Omar Ibn Al Khattab was: When did you enslave people when their mothers birthed them Free! متى استعبدتم الناس وقد ولدتهم أمهاتهم أحراراً When you look at a historical event or fact outside of its context and apply to it a modern view of course it will seem so out of touch and so bizarre. Who knows, in a couple thousand years the future humans will look at us and say: our ancestors were slaves for corporations, they were paid a shit amount of money to spend their days and so life, making tons of money for a single dude...
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crimsonmvestro
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4/2/2025, 5:43:29 PM
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I have no problem admitting where I may have spoken out of ignorance. However the Arab slave trade predates Islam, and what does the Quran say about the enslavement of non-Muslims?
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4/2/2025, 6:03:40 PM
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Good point, it predates Islam and one of the principal feuds between early Muslims and the Quraichis (dominant tribe on Mecca) was the status of the slaves. These hatiths clearly pissed them off at that time: لا فضلَ لعربيٍّ على عجميٍّ ، ولا لعجميٍّ على عربيٍّ ، ولا لأبيضَ على أسودَ ، ولا لأسودَ على أبيضَ - : إلَّا بالتَّقوَى ، النَّاسُ من آدمَ ، وآدمُ من ترابٍ "No Arab is superior to a non-Arab, nor is a non-Arab superior to an Arab. No white is superior to black, nor is black superior to white—except by piety. All people are descendants of Adam, and Adam was created from dust." And This one: "O people! Your Lord is one. Indeed, there is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab; neither for a red-skinned over a black-skinned, nor for a black-skinned over a red-skinned—except by righteousness. Verily, the most noble among you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous." The prophet goes even farther into refusing discrimination by family lineage, you know...those who say you know who I am? or You know is is my father? You know who is my family? as a threat to anyone challenging them. "Let those who boast of their forefathers—who are now dead—desist, for they are nothing but fuel for Hellfire. Otherwise, they will be more insignificant to Allah than the beetle that rolls dung with its nose. Indeed, Allah has stripped you of the arrogance of ignorance and its pride in ancestry. There is only a pious believer and a wicked sinner. All people are children of Adam, and Adam was created from dust." \------------ The Quran takes a more general approach into addressing the issue. It doesn't look at it from a race perspective per say, it looks at all humans as one core divided by people's traditions and tribes and the only way God is going to sperate us is by righteousness: "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted." Al-Hujurat 49:13
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