Comment on 5/10 How will you die? by kumir_al-stabya

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kumir_al-stabya · 5/10/2025, 7:14:03 PM · permalink

Gonna start with this Q first "couldn't you also become Immortal by avoiding your death date?"  
  
I wouldn't say so as the only way to be immortal in the true sense is to be infinite as you would need to account for 100% of the universe which is infinite, and it is impossible for a creature to be infinite because even though its parts are infinite, a creature only truly exists in language, language is a human construct, a human construct by definition has finality as it was created, even though that construct is made of infinite parts when a human describes those infinite parts it can never account for all of them.  
  
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lets say you are one human, when someone says you are one human, they are never actually accounting for every part of you as it is impossible to, they are describing the coalescence of the fundamental forces of reality, with mental images and recollections of what one human is, they can only estimate. A human is an estimation of measurements, it is not anything outside of language, and language again is a human construct and has finality, for something to be truly immortal it cannot be created, so a human cannot become truly immortal.  
  
However, one can become biologically immortal, you can still be killed but you can live indefinitely this leads me to  
  
"If you were Immortal than you would live with no fear, but also have no true sense of accomplishment or joy. "  
  
If you are only biologically immortal you can still die, and I personally know in my heart that if I were to become biologically immortal I wouldn't change, I would still want to seek out new things, and troll retards on forums, if anything it would make me happier as I would as much time as I wanted to seek the truth of everything. Also the universe in which you are biologically immortal does not guarantee your continued survival as there are still cosmological forces which will kill you before you even see them.  
  
If you were to somehow become truly immortal, what happens if the universe ceases to be? Do you die or just float in an endless void evermore, the last speck of the universe?  
  
I assume you would have to just chill forever, in order for the universe to ever have existed as the universe is infinite and cannot be destroyed, that sounds like a fate worse than death.  
  
"There is no purpose to life as you have forever to get around to whatever it is you want to do."  
  
There is no purpose to life even if you aren't immortal, the only purpose is the one you give it.

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kumir_al-stabya · 5/10/2025, 10:48:28 PM · permalink

"As what would you want to do for forever anyways..."  
  
Live my life a day at a time like I already do, I enjoy being alive, I don't fear death, I just prefer to not be dead, my time will come, but id rather be alive to see as many new days as possible as every new day I learn more, experience something new. Why would I want to give this up? This is where spiritualists require one to have faith, that when you die, there is something more, yet that is a promise that comes from the word of a human and is the same in my eyes as a trust me bro.  
  
A trust me bro isn't an answer and whatever is next, if there even is one, is not guaranteed to be anything. If there is one, it could be better, it could as they say some kind of heaven, but it could just as well be something far worse, trust me bros just don't cut it for me, biological immortality is very much a possibility and is not a trust me bro.  
  
"But what does this biological immortality mean for my life in the big picture?

What If I fall in love, have a family. they do not inherit my biological immortality How would this influence my life and my choices? I have to live and watch everyone I love die, over and over again? Constantly reliant on making new loves and new friends.

Is there not a certain prison that even long life encapsulates us into?

Would I simply fake my own death to get away from my family, so I can start a new life?

Would I stay away from true love and true loyal friendship knowing I will have to watch them all die?

Knowing I could live forever, wouldn't I be more afraid to take risk and find true enjoyment in my mortal finite life? "

I'm fortunate in that my girlfriend is a kindred spirit, and would want to be alive with me, where I to be biologically immortal and have the capability to share it with my children, it would be some kind of scientific procedure and they will be asked when they are old enough if they want it, if they don't its their choice and I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. I can only assume how this might feel, I feel I would get over it in time, I don't have any intention to die if I don't have to, and friends come and go in life all the time, there are friends I once had who where once close who I may never see again, I don't really care.  
  
Being biologically immortal would also have the opposite effect for me personally I wouldn't be more cautious, id be more reckless, id look for way to improve upon it, perhaps there are ways to become indestructible.

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