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Parent Post: Pro-Jewish?
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gehstur
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4/4/2025, 8:08:10 PM
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Yes but both the good Muslims and good Christians don't actually follow the book, they make all kinds of spiritualization of the genocidal murderous ethics and codes of conduct in the book. OH uh.. Amalek is like ah.. i-its like your sins i decided, it isn't something material, you don't actually have to murder women and children in real life. Jews follow the book to a T, it is actually a very materialistic book. And that's why they are evil.
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q2025
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4/4/2025, 8:56:59 PM
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I get what you're saying and you'd be absolutely right in that assessment given the widespread understanding of religion. For Christians, yes, all the uncomfortable stuff is done away with by the church changing gods laws to suit the wishes of the pope and the demands of the times. Divorce, Polygamy, Swine, Interest, Witches, even racism. For Muslims it's a slightly different case because Islamic law is still the law in most muslim countries. And on an individual basis it's the ones that follow the Quran to a T that are the good muslims while all the savages and idiots are the ones that have little to no knowledge of the Quran and who therefore follow rulers, clerics or other idiots. You can see the book itself at quran.com. I'd recommend the Saheeh International Translation because that the one is simple English. And if there's any rule you find to be evil or offensive, let me know. Or if you allow, I can guess that your main objections might be to things like men being allowed 4 wives, veiled women, hand amputation for theft, death sentences for adultery and homosexuality, acceptance of slavery? Because yes, all of them are in the Quran. But if you're interested I can share the fuller context because sometimes it helps to clear concepts. For example, yes, adultery is punishable by death BUT you need 4 witnesses to prove it, and if the accused denies it 4 times then there will be no punishment because the matter is left to God... even if it's somehow proven or confessed, if the accused just say sorry there is to be NO punishment... So essentially, its the equivalent of decriminalized offences but the law isn't changed because the aim is that if you're going to sin, keep it hidden and don't do it in public or boast about it because that encourages more sin. That might still not be acceptable to some people but I'm guessing it sounds far more moderate and acceptable to far more people when it's explained fully, rather than those that simply say Islam kills people who fuck around. And in the extremely rare cases where extremists have killed adulterers despite a mercy plea, then those are the ones that aren't following the Quran to a T and are actually bad muslims. But if you do want to know more about any rule in the book, you're welocme to ask. Am always happy to answer, no matter how taboo or awkward the subject. Peace 🙏
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gehstur
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4/4/2025, 9:03:52 PM
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I haven't read the Quran. I believe it is harsh on the non-believers, but I can make sense of that and that it isn't necessarily evil to wish everyone have the cohesion behind a common law. But as far as I'm aware it features the story of Moses, I don't know if it also features the passover event, but if it does, I shall condemn the book along with the bible for being evil. I do not condone the killing of innocents, because that is evil I decided.
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4/4/2025, 9:46:02 PM
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In the Quran, it's the Pharoah who ordered the killing of the children. Quran doesnt celebrate passover or the killing of innocents. But yes, it does tell the story of Moses. In fact Moses is mentioned in the Quran more than Muhammad. And no, it's not harsh on trestment of non-muslims. In fact muslims are responsible for protecting life and freedom of religion of non-muslims living in their lands, especially Christians and Jews. The "Ashtiname of Muhammad" was a treaty between Muhammad and the Christian monks who lived under his rule. You can see for yourself how harsh it is. Posted the Pic below for your convenience. Quran is pretty clear, "there is to be no compulsion in religion" (2:156). If someone wants to become Muslim it's for their own benefit. Muslims are not supposed to try to convert anyone either, just give them a reminder or information if it benefits them. In fact even Muhammad is told repeatedly "your duty is only notification", "you are not a manager over them". (39:41, 6:107) I'm keeping my answer short because I don't want to be giving sermons unless less you want them 🤣 Happy to give more details about this or any other topic. AI answers below for third party fact checking:   
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