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Privacy is a right! And here's how we're going to protect it~

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The VPN industry runs on pinky promises. We built vp.net so you don't have to trust us.

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*Happy to go deep on the architecture in the comments. Ask us anything about how the enclaves work, what the attestation process looks like, or how this actually changes the threat model versus a traditional no-logs VPN* This is a good approach for those with interest and education in this area....perhaps someone will be able to hash this out with you, and that would be good. However, maybe the most important thing you could explain right now is this. "the vp.net team" Could you please explain to the users here, who this 'team' is and why anyone should trust them? This seems to be the main issue at hand. It is your team members that are the issue....perhaps....not so much the architecture? It would be good to hear your take on this. Peace.😇

can I please get mod privileges in the abandoned p/health and p/russia pochas and for the absentee mod in the p/canada be downgraded to second tier position?:) [image]

I would love to; if we can all work together to formalize a fair method and potentially third-party judiciary to do this in a fair and transparent way.  This is one of the things I was hoping the DAO would be instrumental to solve, but it seems the interest wasn't as high so we're working on different ways to improve the community voice and participation of this site. To be clear the DAO isn't necessarily off the table either, but every presentation resulted in significant friction and in many cases abandonment of the website.

Happy to answer questions about the team, but first I would like to speak about this: "why anyone should trust them?" You shouldn't. You shouldn't put blind trust into any company. That's the whole point of vp.net and our technology: zero-trust. Why? Because there are exactly 0 people on this planet that are going to risk having their company shut down, legal trouble or worse to protect some random internet user they never met. A company may have an amazing track record and a team of respected members of society. And guess what? They worked hard to get there, and they aren't going to watch it burn to the ground to protect a random user. We have seen it many times already, where "no logs" VPNs hand over logs because they were compelled. "But my VPN doesn't log." That may be true. For now. There have been several VPNs that didn't log.... until they were compelled to and threatened with legal action. Heck, proxy.sh installed Wireshark on a US node and ran it for 7 days, capturing as much data as they possibly could, because they were told to. THAT is why architecture IS so important. If a VPN even has the ABILITY to log... it can and likely will at some point in time, under legal pressure. That's why vp.net was built and why Andrew invented an entire new VPN architecture in order to build the only VPN that physically cannot log VPN activity, ever. Not just right now, it can never log. It's physically impossible. If the authorities put a gun to our heads, it changes nothing. We literally can't do it, and we can prove it. You can even prove it, because we allow public attestation, so anyone can verify our inability to log, any time they want. And here's the thing - there was literally no need to do this. Andrew easily could've started another trust-based VPN and had it online in 12 hours, doing the same thing everyone else does. And he could pay off every YouTube to say it was the best and build another top trust-based VPN service and make a lot of money, and it would be MUCH easier to do. But, he didn't. He purposely took the difficult path. The one that means increased costs, greatly increased development time due to the complexity and the difficulty of trying to educate the world on why it's better, all which means more headaches and less money. This has been a personal mission of Andrew's since I first met him in 2015. It was his original vision for PIA, but there was no way to get there, so he had to start over. And he built the first VPN system that literally has no possible way to log activity. All you have to do is look around at the sale prices of some VPNs to realize they are selling people's data.  Why would a company give you service worth $300 at their normal price for like $50? Why would a VPN sell lifetime subscriptions when there are recurring costs forever? Why would a VPN pay an affiliate $100 for getting them a customer that only paid $50? We even added a way to pay using Zano, which is completely anonymous, and use our service without creating an account or even using our apps. Let's dissect that for a minute. Why would someone set up their VPN so people can use it with completely anonymous payment methods, without creating an account  or even giving us an email address to contact them, when that also means no recurring payment? In our very first company-wide meeting Andrew told us that in every task we do for this company, we should ask ourselves "Does this give our customers more privacy or less privacy?" And if the answer is "Less privacy" we should not do it, even if it would mean making a lot more money. And if the answer is "more privacy", we should do it, even if it means our job is harder or we make less money. That's the standard. Andrew genuinely cares about privacy and has made it a personal mission to help as many people retain their privacy as possible, which he has proven countless times over the years. At PIA, he donated MILLIONS to every privacy, free speech and internet freedom organization we could find: Electronic Frontier Foundation, Fight for the Future, Access Now, Index on Censorship and dozens more, and didn't even advertise or post about most of them, because he didn't care about the recognition. He bought full page and dual-full page ads in the NY Times multiple times to raise awareness about certain issues, including an ad calling out 50 Senators that voted to let ISPs sell user data. He even paid extra to have the whole page printed in black ink with white letters to make it stand out and make a big impact. It just had a small PIA logo in the bottom corner without even a call to action or tagline or any promotional text. And didn't even post it online after.  Some random person took a picture of it and posted it on Reddit and it became the #2 most liked post that whole year on Reddit. There was tremendous potential to leverage that to make money... but he didn't, because that's not what it was about. We gave free accounts, training and funding to a group that was helping abused women get away from their abusers without them tracking them down online, and never said a word about it publicly to anyone expect that organization. I have personally witnessed Andrew do more good for this world than most people will do in their entire lives and it's not even close. He has been in position to destroy people that did terrible things to him, and chose not to, and even offered them help on many occasions. Of all of the people I have known personally, Andrew has had the greatest ability to do evil, yet he is the person I have seen do more good than anyone else. Andrew is the visionary behind vp.net and sets the tone for the whole company, and since day 1, he has been very clear, that protecting our users at all costs is the most important thing, always. There is information about our different team members on our website if you're looking for more information about something in particular: https://vp.net/l/en-US/about

Can I argue that if "they" used this for good purposes, I would support tracking murderers and violent offenders? [image] But anarcho-tyranny is the only thing I think "they" can do.