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9/20/2025, 3:42:55 AM
Deport all the H1Bs
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9/21/2025, 12:26:36 AM
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If the immigration budget was half of the ICE budget I think we would be in a much better place as a country. Why can't we just have a healthy immigration system and enforced borders.
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hunter
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9/21/2025, 7:46:39 PM
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The amount of people here who aren't integrated, we ought to stop all immigration completely for at least 2 generations.
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9/21/2025, 11:33:29 PM
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I think it's more that we need a return to Pride to be an American. Instead of hating on white people and American culture. If you want to come here, you can't poop on the sidewalk and sexually harass women and children. If you want to be here you need to assimilate and appreciate our values and culture. Not pretend that your culture that you are fleeing is somehow better. None of it makes any sense. I'm fine with anyone who comes here with the goal of assimilating. But if you aren't and show that you aren't you should be sent back immediately.
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hunter
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9/21/2025, 11:48:41 PM
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Let's make sure they say please and thank you and return the shopping carts, too. That's how ridiculous you sound, friend.
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9/21/2025, 11:50:31 PM
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I think that would be a good test. If you are here on a visa or newly immigrated and don't return the shopping cart, I am fine with deporting you. Doesn't sound ridiculous to me at all.
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 12:37:54 AM
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Do you understand that there are almost 400 million people in this country and we let in MILLIONS each year? Do you understand how many people just 1 million is?
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9/22/2025, 12:52:35 AM
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yes, And I am anti h1b visa, and anti mass immigration. But I am pro legal immigration for those who are qualified and want to assimilate. I am also racist and sexist. However I am also smart enough to know that hardline stances like "No immigration for 2 generations" is an unattainable situation that will never happen. So I try to be plausible, a video of mine for reference. 
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 1:30:42 AM
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You want to put them in your backyard? We're out of space. They're taking our opportunities through government coercion and nepotism. They're competing for our housing, our goods, our services. Demand what is right or be damned to have demanded at all.
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9/22/2025, 1:49:14 AM
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*"You want to put them in your backyard?"* umm obviously not, why would you make that assumption *"We're out of space."* Sounds like you're a city boy, tons of space looking to build a neighborhood for like minded families on my property, lots of space. Living in a city is for literal retards. *"They're taking our opportunities through government coercion and nepotism. They're competing for our housing, our goods, our services."* True but I'd argue they are dominating the "received services" side of this and demanding a higher percentage while contributing almost nothing. So what are you personally doing except fighting people online to improve this situation? are you not damned by your own definition here?
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 2:15:35 AM
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you're arguing for excuses now.
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9/22/2025, 2:35:53 AM
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The basis of my argument here is that an oz of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If our immigration system functioned correctly, we had secure borders, only willingly assimilated individuals and families were allowed in, we wouldn't need ICE.
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 4:29:14 PM
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The basis of your argument is fantasy land nonsense. 
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9/22/2025, 6:53:44 PM
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a properly defended border and strong immigration system is fantasy land? But deporting millions of people and shutting down the border completely is logical?
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 7:13:20 PM
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If we have a "properly defended border" why can't we shut it down? If we have people here on work visas why can't we send them back home? You're not being logical.
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9/22/2025, 7:25:03 PM
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A properly defended border would be shut down. We can send them back and the H1b program should be ended. This isn't going anywhere, but good luck.
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hunter
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9/22/2025, 7:41:03 PM
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Those were *your* arguments. I told you already that we have too large of an un-integrated population. How do you plan to integrate a population that is isolated in its own culture on our own soil? What percentage of the population do you think integrates over what period of time? Basically, we're growing foreign populations in our country and they're staying formed in their large communities and not integrating. There's also the portion that grows up with their unintegrated parents, then goes to American schools, and doesn't feel fully connected to either side. These people always end up Leftist, which gives the young person a cause to feel connected and righteous. I'm not against immigration in general, strictly controlled immigration is the ideal kind of immigration, but we can't get rid of them all, you're right, we have to let them integrate, and we can't keep pumping more in while that's happening or we'll continue to slow down the rate of integration.
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9/23/2025, 11:47:39 PM
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Those weren't my arguments but whatever. I think this immigrant states it well here:  I think these types of tests, like returning the shopping cart, petty theft, are key traits of assimilation and are things we should focus on. To restore a high trust society is the goal. The pot has already been melted, most of our issues in this country come from straying from the norms, and societal expectations. Making excuses for bad behavior because of skin color. These people use the SAARS for their personal gain, and they view this all as a game they are playing. I'm pro legal immigration, but also pro deportation, There has been too much of making excuses for people purposefully intending to take advantage of their neighbors for too long. This is why I support more prevention rather than a cure. If we had a more comprehensive immigration system than functioned properly, and had secure borders with 0% illegal immigration. I think we would be on the right path, but thats just my opinion.
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hunter
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9/24/2025, 12:01:14 AM
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Yes they were, and there's no such thing as a melting pot
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