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p/the_great_climate_hoax
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3/13/2025, 8:08:03 PM
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simms
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3/13/2025, 8:17:26 PM
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Is there a way to rename or delete an unused pocha so I can rename or change it?
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3/13/2025, 8:27:10 PM
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I think renaming would be a tricky issue. Cause someone could run a pocha and then rename it down the line as a gotcha. Like you could make a pocha for sports team, call it 'Go Team Blue'. Then let people post in it for months. Then rug pull and change the name of the pocha to **Go Team Red look at all these Team Blue retards**. and then it would be a pocha people wouldnt want to post in and they would have a bad user experience as they were misled.
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3/13/2025, 8:27:48 PM
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deleting is also an issue because a moderator can go crazy one day and delete a pocha that is full of tons of great information and it would make the site look like shit
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3/13/2025, 8:29:56 PM
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That’s why I said unused. I have my two max one is untouched so I want to rename / start a new one
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3/13/2025, 8:41:54 PM
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maybe you should have a time limit to delete a pocha you've made. like after creating you have 7-14 days to delete the pocha. Or if no one has posted or bumped anything for 30+ days you can delete a pocha. and get another one to create.
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3/13/2025, 8:43:20 PM
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or also if just the mod hasn't logged in or posted in a pocha after x amount of time they are removed from mod and applications for new mods could be done.
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3/13/2025, 8:47:52 PM
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I get that unpopulating content could get messy and if anything even stains are a sign of something happening at some point… I guess it be nice if people could be granted more pochas depending on how well they manage their own
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3/13/2025, 8:53:23 PM
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yeah, for now that works great. But I also see how into the future thats a problem. Because it still lays all the power into an administrators hands, and I think @matt and @dangun want to build the site so that whoever owns it and runs it cant exert manipulation, and narrative control over the users and the site. but for now good users should be rewarded, but also no one should be turned into a super mod with control over tons of pochas. I'm not sure what a solution long term to this will be will have to think about it.
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matt
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3/16/2025, 9:34:57 PM
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must be built in a way that future admins cannot manipulate and veer from our vision. So although some things can be implemented, by simply adding something that seems harmless now can be weaponized later. Something we consider with every decision. Even if WE dont abuse it...could a future admin.
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3/16/2025, 9:37:11 PM
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This is exactly how I am thinking about things. I hope you read over all the posts in this thread, for all my reasonings and theory crafting. And disregard the irony that I am theory crafting in the wrong pocha.
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matt
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3/16/2025, 10:32:27 PM
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Appreciate you.
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heather
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3/16/2025, 8:24:25 PM
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Maybe we could ask @dangun or @matt about an archive feature for pochas and that they would not count against your 2 pocha limit..... what say you @logical
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3/16/2025, 8:27:39 PM
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Honestly I have come to agree with the 2 pocha limit. Atleast until the site hits some huge number like a million users or something. Any way around it is simply cheating the system. And no one person should be mod of so many pochas without merit anyways. I think the best way is to do it naturally, if you want a new pocha made, then suggest it and ask a new user to make it. If you want to be the mod of a new pocha than show yourself to be worthy of being a mod in the pocha by making good posts and conversation.
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3/16/2025, 8:28:48 PM
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it's already gonna be a huge Deal to clean up all the mis made and users that disappear pochas by the admin staff. And increasing the load on @matt and @dangun to monitor all these exponentially added pochas is a lot of work as it is.
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3/16/2025, 8:31:41 PM
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my thought process was merely that archiving unwanted, abandoned, or orphaned pochas was in keeping with the no editing no deleting policy.
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3/16/2025, 8:35:40 PM
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Yeah thats a great way to think about it too. But then that pocha is still in your possession and someone else cannot create or use it. You could create a Britney spears pocha and then just sit on it holding it hostage so no one else could use it. Not that I think you would ever do anything like that heather obviously lol. I understand your hesitance to create a pocha and be a mod but why not just go for it. Who knows how long the 2 pocha rule will stand. Everything is forever, but also Nothing is forever, you gotta live a little and take some risk to be alive.
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3/16/2025, 7:12:25 PM
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I just had an idea about crossposting. There are examples of people posting good things in the wrong pocha. And it's gonna happen a lot for forever. Why not have a system where the Mod can allow the person to move the post. Or the User can request it be moved vice versa. This would then not "Delete" something but rather transfer it. So like the report feature there could be a "Report this for I want to move the post" and if the Mod allows it then they can crosspost or "Move Post" to a more acceptable pocha. Or vice versa the Mod could inform a user that they should move or crosspost this to a more appropriate pocha, then the user can select a pocha to post it into etc. There could be a leftover placeholder post to keep the chain of conversation intact as well.
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3/16/2025, 9:38:51 PM
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this is my main point on the subject in the short term @matt
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3/16/2025, 7:13:07 PM
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and I still think people should be allowed to crosspost 1-3 times in the future like I said above. But I also understand why maybe that should wait.
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3/13/2025, 8:12:51 PM
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Good idea! ^(if respected)^
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