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3/7/2025, 4:04:31 AM
Is there any way out ?
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autodidact
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3/7/2025, 8:37:14 AM
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Violent revolution increasingly seems to be what we will have to resort to. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -Thomas Jefferson
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3/8/2025, 1:06:40 AM
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So do you agree with Dr. Shiva's science of revolution and build multi generational revolution plan or does revolution can be done within a generation or two ? We've seen the state's military and intelligent capability how can we have a chance against that ?
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autodidact
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3/8/2025, 5:30:18 AM
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If our grievances can not be addressed and rectified peacefully, then Shiva's plan is useless. I don't particularly trust him, and he sounds like a charlatan. The state and their troops/agents are not yet aware that they are tools of evil. I suspect that, in the presence of an enlightened revolution, their forces will fracture into loyalists and rebels, weakening their grasp. We can employ guerilla tactics, cyberwarfare, and enlist the support of foreign adversaries like China. If all our efforts are not enough, it is still preferable to die standing than to live on our knees. Many Americans are very well-armed and have been prepping for this for decades. I like our odds.
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3/8/2025, 4:58:21 PM
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I'm a man of peace at heart, i avoid violence any way i could, but seeing the reality today where people around me are oppressed physically, mentally, monetarily makes me doubtful how peace can take us out of this situation, each passing day affirm my view that perhaps the only way out is revolution, especially now that i have a child i keep asking myself "what kind of future that i want to left my child with", if bloody revolution is truly our only chance of bright future i hope my generation is enough to achieve victory so that our future generations can prosper in a dawn of peaceful era
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autodidact
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3/9/2025, 1:56:48 AM
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I really want there to be a peaceful solution, but it doesn't seem likely. Our government is totally compromised and infected with the interests of the Zionist banking cartel. They will continue to limit your freedoms and siphon your wealth via inflation and taxes. The CIA has conducted horrendous experiments on their own citizens. The NSA keeps a profile on you and all your activity. The ATF knocks on your door to harass you out of your second amendment rights. The Fed will print money until your savings dwindle. The IRS will extort you of your own income. How many infringements are we willing to brush off? Have we become such a cucked society that people are not enraged by this?! In my estimation, this can only be responded with in blood, unless all of these institutions willingly commit seppuku.
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nevertheless
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3/13/2025, 7:12:40 AM
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They’ve been working on this for over a hundred years. We have a lot of catching up to do.
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3/7/2025, 4:19:58 AM
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3/7/2025, 6:55:34 AM
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I haven't finished watching Matt's latest ep yet but yeah safety/comfort will always have a price, the question is just how much are you willing to pay or perhaps how much can you afford to pay. I am also skeptical about Dr. Shiva's approach too, in his approach the only unifying factor for the revolution is just a common goal to topple the empire and i think that is fragile, it can be easily cracked from inside and outside by lies and deception (as many have before), and asking someone to fight for their entire life to make a revolution that they will never see is a depressing thought because one there is no guarantee for a success and second IF the revolution is successful there is no certainty of what kind of new system that will be implemented, and there will always temptation to corrupt the new system for personal gain whether it's from inside or outside, and when it happened what then ? are we going to organize another revolution ?
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