Comment on Proportional representative system......... by modernizedemocracy

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modernizedemocracy · 5/28/2025, 8:59:25 PM · permalink

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hyokkim · 5/29/2025, 1:04:56 AM · permalink

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modernizedemocracy · 5/29/2025, 1:09:43 PM · permalink

Every election nullifies the preceding election when the voters decide so, yes.

That's how it works.  
  
The only problem is that when the elected representative betray their electors the day after the election, the electors need to wait 4 years before having a chance to nullify them.  
  
Whereas with tokens, at least electors can manage the elected power for the rest of their mandate. If they don't keep their promises, they loose their elector's tokens and they can't pass their bills.  
  
Think of a politician campaigning in your district, telling you everything you want to hear. I'm going to vote in favor of this, I'm going to vote against that, and you're like yeah, this guy thinks exactly like me, so you vote for him to represent you and vote in your name in congress. That guy gets elected. He's congressman X.  
  
Suddenly the day after the election, a huge event happens, a large scale catastrophe.  In response to that, congress is going to pass a bill that you don't like at all. Then, you learn that this guy you voted for, congressman X, he's going to vote "yay" for that bill, in your name, in congress, and you don't agree with that at all. Moreover, you learn that this guy was campaigning with money from sponsors you don't like and has personal relations with people you don't trust. That guy maybe is compromised or corrupted.  
  
This new catastrophic situation, everybody is talking about it. Most of your friends and family members don't agree with what the government wants to do. That bill is just not the right solution and will even make things worst. But in the media, the narrative is pushing in favor of that bill. So called experts tell you that it's the right thing to do. Nevertheless, all around you, everyone you know is against that bill. The weird thing is that 500 of the 535 voting members in congress are in favor of that bill while absolutely no one around you is favorable to it.  
  
Now there's another congressman, congressman Y, that comes out in the mass media, opposed to that bill. He got a very few congressmen on his side. They're all depicted as crazy, even though everyone in your family and friends actually agree with them.  
  
Sounds familiar?  
  
I get how armed citizens could mobilize, manifest and even go as far as using the threat of civil war to oppose the government. But what if you could take your vote token out of congressman's X hand and give it to congressman's Y?

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