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Parent Post: Proportional representative system.........
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5/26/2025, 4:18:36 PM
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''Being ruled by lottery would allow a fringe 1% to cause irreversible damage 1% of the time. I'd prefer a system where no irreversible damage could be caused by a fringe minority.'' I see you point/concern; why I also believe in 2nd amendment with a vengeance. I also believe in private/political militias. Theoretically, that crazy 1% could do a lot of damage, but against 99% that are armed to the teeth, and organized militarily, independently of the government? ''Also, a system that can deal with peaceful separation and federation is better than a system that works only with violent secession and annexion.'' That doesn't exist in reality, even U.S. with all those checks and balances, and Constitution had to go through many annexations, breaking treaties, blunt violation of Constitutions, sometimes, not even without a good reason. I think being prepared to deal with violent secessions, and annexation as possibility at all times is better than the system where violence is not supposed to be an option. That's how the world really works. One very important reason why Americans are so unrealistic today, especially in foreign policy is that violence should not be an option, and yet they love to employ violence! This is schizophrenic; why so many Americans are mentally ill, immature about employing violence. If they had to deal with violence transfer of power as a possibility, at every election, they would be far more realistic about applying violence overseas.
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modernizedemocracy
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5/27/2025, 2:31:49 PM
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When thinking about taking the first step forward something, I personally start with thinking of where the end journey of all journeys will be. Forget about America for a brief moment. Think 100 years in the future. No, think 1 million years in the future. One day, if mankind wants to be interplanetary or even galactic, that'd imply that a lot of people, maybe even every human, could manipulate enough power to instantly destroy the entire planet. Push the idea to it's limit. One day or another, mankind will need a group decision making system that would allow every single human to have the equivalent of a nuclear weapon in hand at all times. In that context, every individual is the embodiment of the 2nd amendment, every single person is now a private/political militia and 99% can't use violence to oppose 1% anymore. That's why allowing peaceful separation and federation is inevitable. Now back to reality. Others use violence on us, we use violence on others. Not just countries. Humans still barely manage their emotions, even in a simple family or a small tribe context. People act in violence at each other to the smallest fractal of society. It's also important to keep in mind that there's 3 general types of violence: physical (coercion, guns...), psychological (deception, propaganda, censorship...) and social (corruption, cronyism, elitism...). We can't think of a country, even a small community, a family or even an individual that doesn't get mad, doesn't lie or doesn't try to reject anyone. So what do we do from there? If the government has to be formed by humans that get mad, lie or corrupt, and that government has to deal with other governments that fight, deceive and and manipulate, and that government has to represent a group of violent people, then the representative humans forming that government have to act in giving the example: avoid using it. Don't use violence against other governments, don't use violence against the people that you represent. That's why I believe that there must be a self-referencing natural, mathematical incentive in adopting the system: the principal-agent problem. From where we are now, we have to focus on having better transparency (less information asymmetry) and a more dynamic balance of power (crypto-token voting). My belief is that such a system will naturally perform and attract other countries in it's adoption. Eventually, countries would just be separate decision-making hubs that can freely separate or federate, with decision-making weight based in each human soul equal value, no matter the abundance of resources or the localization. Here is a pocha on that particular subject: https://soj.ooo/p/modernize_democracy/post/02f99d9986b00505ad218e7650a30167
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