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Parent Post: John 14:6
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11/13/2025, 1:43:40 PM
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Hi again Grace. My God and my prophet dont need me to defend them. And they ask me to avoid getting into unnecessary arguments, especially with believers in God. But truth be told, I do try to dispel misconceptions when I see them, if its an intellectual discussion. I do remember a discussion about the allegation of homosexuality based on a misquoted and misunderstood hadith, and I remember clarifying the issue as best as I could. I don't remember if it was this thread or some other one. Irrespective, again, I don't see every comment, and even if i do, I ignore most of them. And its not because of who makes the comment or who it's made against. Homosexuality is an unnatural sin in Islam and the Quran and the prophets are all very clear about that. One misquoted hadith doesn't make Muhammad gay, just as John 13:23 doesn't make Jesus gay: “One of his disciples, whom Jesus loved, was reclining at table at Jesus’ bosom" With that out of the way, can you please stop assuming I'm biased and only intervene if someone is bashing Paul or the New Testament. That's demonstratably false. On this very forum I've also defended the Bible, Judaism, Jews and Indians and I've criticized people who identify as Muslims. I just don't have time or inclination to jump into every argument. Peace 🙏
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11/18/2025, 3:12:51 AM
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"*My God and my prophet dont need me to defend them. And they ask me to avoid getting into unnecessary arguments, especially with believers in God.*" **Yet you [empowered an argument](https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/16513e406357d07eff416394fd32f411/comment/87151) by helping a Gnostic blame me** for what I'd just reported about the Illuminati, elite, UAE, S.A., Jared, & Israel; & then argued w/me b/c I didn't agree w/you that it was funny. **You don't object to him calling** **Mohammed a homo & paedo**; but you lecture me about it🤔. I know why💡: **%%With me you can deflect to Jesus%%, as if** spreading a "what-about Him" story you know is false will magically prove hadith about Mohammed to be false🤔. **You inspired me to take notes on [the video from which you deflected](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttJ24ADsPOE) to Jesus** (linked in my previous comment, to which I tagged you), **the one w/hadith explaining how Mohammed was given** "***the strength of 30 men***" (to service his 11 wives, nightly). If you want to lecture about it, I suggest you lecture the one who introduced the video.  **David Wood** reads from a study by Bruce Rind PhD that **explained Muslims' custom to have** "***marriage-like arrangements between men & adolescent boys***" (starting at 10 - 11, too young for facial hair), w/the Quran even calling them "*pearls*" (hidden, scattered, etc.). Apparently **penetration** "***was believed essential to boys' physical & spiritual development ... transferred male power to them***"). Then, after **many hadith** as examples of Mohammed as gullible, David showed **Raymond Ibrahim telling about the Al Zutt, a tribe of viral, dark-skinned Indian or Paki men; & how Mohammed was** "*exhausted & in pain*" after being "***ridden***" **by 30 of them one night, to gain their strength** (of course, he also had a young man \[whom he said was the angel Gabriel\] penetrate him occasionally after that, to keep up his strength). . . "...*please stop assuming I'm biased & only intervene if someone is bashing Paul or the New Testament. That's demonstratably false ...I've also defended the Bible, Judaism, Jews . Indians and . criticized people who identify as Muslims. I just don't have time or inclination to jump into every argument*." I didn't assume; & it's not "*false*" to say you bash Paul & the NT: **I linked examples** (in this thread). **You defend the parts of Christianity that Islam appropriated; & trash the rest**. You **deflect from Islam's wrongs to Christians'** or Americans' (linked), as if it makes Islam's wrong OK. **You have arbitrary rules** where, for example, I can't use Paul's words; but [you used them](https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/bb043fa7a274d184e6a603cd0a215ad8/comment/81590) to deflect from a Muslim's apostasy to Christians women. Your sometimes defending various minorities is irrelevant. You have time to jump into arguments to mock me & Jesus, or to tell me I'm "false" or "lying" when I'm not; but not to defend Mohammed from being called a homo paedo🤔
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