Comment on Iblis (The Default Caliph) of the Caliphate (Earth). by deletejuice

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deletejuice · 3/26/2025, 7:31:24 PM · permalink

There are many theories regarding such things and even I have thought about them, however I tend to filter them out based on -

1\. if it goes against the Quran or articles of faith

2\. if there exists a hadith marfu' or mawquf (attributed directly to Prophet ﷺ or sahabi) directly in dispute or contradiction with the said theory

This is how I could reject the theory in this post of Iblees being a temporary god as it goes against Tawheed. Usually I try to not dive into these theories and stay with tafseer from early scholars so as to not create a deviant belief.

About the existence the humanoids before Adam, there's definitely no such hadith which says this. The closest that I've found something to hint at the presence of other lifeforms apart from mankind, jinnkind &amp; angels is 1:2 - *"...lord of all worlds"*. I know the tafseers don't say this, but I tend to think that it might be.

There is a mawquf narration by Ibn Abbas which goes: *"The jinn lived on earth for a long time before Adam. They caused corruption, shed blood, and spread mischief. So, Allah sent the angels against them, and the angels expelled them to far islands and into the seas. Then, Allah created Adam and placed him on earth."*

But this has uncertain chain of transmission and some scholars consider it from Isra'iliyat. So although it's not authentic, it does put some weight to the theory and also explains how Angels knew about human being able to cause bloodshed on Earth in 2:30.

Jinns losing access to heaven is explained in hadiths that they were able to overhear divine decrees before the Prophet ﷺ was sent but were stopped when revelation came. However, this does not support that they ruled over humanoid creatures, specifically, before Adam (AS).

Also, I don't think Adam was a combination of a humanoid predecessor through evolution since Quran clearly states that Adam was created directly from clay from scratch. There's also hadith saying Allah created Adam in his form. I see this as a direct contradiction to the evolution from past beings theory.

So what I can take away from this is the theory that - evidence of jinns existence on earth before Adam (AS) + their influence on humans after Adam (AS) is what sowed the seeds of polytheism. Although this doesn't explain to me how, according to an authentic hadith, humanity remained upon Tawheed for 10 centuries after Adam.

But as far as the theory of "humanoids" delving on earth alongside jinns before Adam goes, that is a no from me based on my current knowledge. It's definitely CAN be true but the potential evidences that I am presented with feel like an interpretation-stretch to me.

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