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9/3/2026, 8:52:27 PM
Astral projection
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serenity
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9/3/2026, 10:44:12 PM
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A most excellent topic for discussion. It is real. I have not tried it. I find that I am a very earth grounded workhorse of a human. However, when I do slow down, I fully. plan on immersing myself into learning about the energy of the human soul, existence and its more than 3 dimension quality. This sounds a bit scatter brained.....but think about the Telepathy Tapes kids. When they all meet up at The Hill. The autistic kids are not encumbered by Dogma in all its human forms, are they? Let's talk some more about this in the future. I think it would make a good Soj.ooo livestream chat.
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goyim
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9/4/2026, 2:11:06 AM
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I agree and would be willing to participate in a livestream chat together on the subject because the topic intrests me to no ends, and i have my own variations and views that connect to astral projection theories and possible crossover of other forms of possesion that we open ourselves up to by means of substance abuse, psychedelics, and even meditation (and i have an interesting story to tell about the only time my mom experienced an OBE after getting in meditation seriously, and she had began to astral project unwillingly as a result, when not even actively meditating.). I also love to talk about the silver cord and the relation to the biblical description of a silver cord that keeps us anchored to reality while also being connected at all times to our spirit selves, and the concept of traveling outside our bodies and into the astral realm, which is made possible because of the silver cord that keeps us anchored to this dimension, though we can, thru meditation and practice, travel through the silver cord into higher realms/dimesions as well as lower realms. Also i can expand on my belief of what our souls manifest as once our bodies have expired and our soul leaves body, and its been described as a silver, lightform/thread that dances and can wrap itself around the living invisibly and act as a sense of comfort and warmth, and past life regression therapy has amazingly reiterated this claim and idea of a place in a higher dimension above our physical earty where souls radiate in forms of light and shades of light. Very interesting stuff and id love to get on a discussion to elaborate more about this topic since it intrests me more then most subjects.
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tikvah
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9/3/2026, 9:23:07 PM
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From a Jewish and especially Kabbalistic perspective, I would approach astral projection very differently than the Christian framework described here. Judaism absolutely recognizes that reality is not limited to what the physical senses perceive. The Tanakh, Talmud, Midrash, and later Kabbalistic writings speak about the \*neshamah\*, dreams, visions, angels, spiritual realms, and different levels of existence. But Judaism also does \*\*not\*\* teach that one should casually attempt to enter spiritual realms simply out of curiosity. The important distinction is between \*\*the soul naturally experiencing something during sleep or a divinely inspired vision\*\*, and deliberately trying to manipulate or project consciousness into realms we do not understand. Kabbalah is not primarily about "traveling outside the body." Its deeper concern is \*\*devekut—cleaving to HaShem—and the refinement of the vessel through which Divine consciousness can be received.\*\* The direction is inward and upward toward God, not outward toward collecting paranormal experiences. I also wouldn't accept the idea that a person is automatically a "beacon of spiritual light" that malevolent entities attack simply because they astral project. That sounds much more like a particular occult/Christian cosmology than a distinctly Jewish teaching. Likewise, the concept of a "spiritual parasite" attaching itself to someone should not simply be presented as established fact. There is, however, a Jewish mystical warning that I think is relevant: \*\*not every spiritual experience is necessarily holy simply because it feels supernatural.\*\* Kabbalah makes a distinction between \*kedushah\* and \*tumah\*, and between genuine spiritual illumination and experiences arising from imagination, ego, confusion, or what the mystics call \*kelipot\*. This is why Jewish mysticism traditionally emphasizes preparation, Torah, mitzvot, humility, prayer, and purification rather than chasing extraordinary experiences. And there is something else worth remembering: the fact that someone experiences sleep paralysis, lucid dreaming, an out-of-body sensation, a presence in the room, or even a profound altered state does not by itself prove that they literally traveled into another dimension. Human consciousness during sleep is extraordinarily complex. So would I be afraid that someone who experiments with astral projection will automatically come back possessed by a demon? \*\*No.\*\* I don't think Judaism gives us grounds for making that claim. Would I recommend deliberately experimenting with unknown spiritual practices simply to see what happens? \*\*Also no.\*\* The Jewish mystical path is much more demanding—and ultimately much safer spiritually: \*\*Don't seek the experience. Seek HaShem.\*\* If something extraordinary is revealed along the way, the question isn't, \*"What realm did I visit?"\* The deeper question is: \*\*"Did this bring me closer to truth, humility, holiness, compassion, and devekut—or did it merely make me fascinated with myself and the experience?"\*\* That distinction is enormously important in Kabbalah. The greatest spiritual attainment isn't escaping the body. \*\*It is bringing the Divine into the body, into the heart, into one's actions, and ultimately into the physical world.\*\*
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braven
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9/3/2026, 9:21:06 PM
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This is the topic of our times....no doubt. ***Beware unearned wisdom.*** This should be the guide to all who seek. You might have to define *Astral Projection*....but for sure I know the general idea of what others are attempting to discuss when they discuss this subject....we do this rather poorly...communicate on this subject....even the most gifted of us.....the language of our times cripples honest communication....especially on contentious issues. The negative lens is already there.....waiting like a trap. How people go about achieving the Astral Plane is of great debate....and should be. It would seem there are more than one way...more than one plane....etc. Yes...there are 'energies/gods/demons' waiting for us.....hence the be wary of unearned wisdom. This is a massive well of adventure....willing to share what I know. Peace.😇
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