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Parent Post: Sojooo Global Reset - End the Beta!
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6/16/2026, 5:25:43 PM
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*Let’s ignore the fact that God chose to create humanity and interact with us using ordinary human language and everyday earthly realities. Let’s also ignore the incarnation of God’s own Son becoming fully human, learning the Scriptures, and using them to testify about Himself... Apparently humans are never satisfied… we always want something more spectacular:* The above is not....fact....or spectacular. Humans never satisfied? Why the gaslighting here? Humans are never satisfied as God is a complete failure? See how that works? *What have the dead atheists and philosophers given us in comparison? Marxism, radical gender theory, endless academic navel-gazing, and utopias?:)* Who said anything about atheists? Because the Bible has such low standards for 'belief' you compare it to navel-gazing? *God wrote the Ten Commandments, I thought that might be interesting to remember:* Okay....let us remember to keep this as the standard of God's ability to communicate in writing. Not much of a standard...but there it is. *The Bible is an open book, and I’m not making any extra claims about it. But if it is not reliable, what should people use instead as a foundation for truth, morality, and meaning? What is your better source of guidance for life?* Here we have a good question...*..what is a better source of guidance for life?* Other human beings are the best source of guidance that we will ever get...and that is not saying too much. We can do better....here and now. And here we are. Maranatha Brother Sonatime😇
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6/19/2026, 10:32:09 AM
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*"Humans never satisfied? Why the gaslighting here?* *Humans are never satisfied as God is a complete failure?"* Ah, yes. So humans have no free will and no agency… except when they actively choose to rebel against God in the Garden of Eden, and then the entire nation of Israel spends centuries doing the exact same thing. But sure, let’s pretend there’s no free will or choice involved. Grateful for being alive? Nah… much better to blame God for everything, everywhere. So tell me, what exactly should a “successful God” have done, does, and will do for you? Is there a list?:) Your best alternative is… “other human beings”? Show me how that’s worked out. Don’t be selfish now:) *"Because the Bible has such low standards"* I don’t think the Bible has low standards, it simply explains a reality you may not agree with, understand, or like. We don’t agree on much in the Biblical text, that’s true. But I’m happy to compare notes whenever you bring something specific up. *"Okay....let us remember to keep this as the standard of God's ability to communicate in writing.* *Not much of a standard...but there it is"* God wrote the Ten Commandments in a specific moment for His people, but He also communicated in many other ways over thousands of years and preserved His word so well that the Bible remains the most widely read book in history. Whether people actually value and understand it is another matter. The Bible is full of examples of imperfect people constantly falling away from relationship with God. That’s the default human condition, and the default state of the world. Maranatha Brother Braven:)
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6/19/2026, 4:21:11 PM
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Hello Sonatime, As always, I appreciate the opportunity to share what I understand as knowledge/truth in patterns that are not always obvious to others. In saying as much, perhaps one of our main net positives is our ability to present our personal experiences and ideas in a way that offers insights into complex patterns. Regardless of our personal views, certain patterns emerge in communication that can be less than optimal....at times. One such pattern is the 'habit' of using extreme/hyperbolic verbiage/language when it is not appropriate...whether intended for humor or not. To that point, the usage of extremes....no one, everyone, always, never.....'should' be used with great care; yet, we can see examples of such in our own writing. *Ah, yes. So humans have **no** free will and **no** agency… except when they actively choose to rebel against God in the Garden of Eden, and then the entire nation of Israel spends centuries doing the exact same thing. But sure, let’s pretend there’s no free will or choice involved.* In my previous post, I made this point explicit: *"Humans are never satisfied as God is a complete failure?"* You said *humans are never satisfied..*....never. So I countered with an equally absurd rejoinder *God is a **complete** failure?* Humans are often satisfied, and if God exists at all, he is not a complete failure. Yes? While I tend to share my points embedded in subtle humor, the language used is often precise...for a good reason. If however, you notice a weakness in my grammatical armor then we might have a case for...talking past each other. However, if we just look at the language we use, we might see that we are not talking past each other, but avoiding being as honest as we can. Not saying we are outright and intentionally being dishonest, but perhaps we are not being as honest as we could. The usage of hyperbolic language is often excessive and not too very accurate. But then to use that language to suggest hyperbolic patterns....is also less than optimal. *Grateful for being alive? Nah… much better to blame God for **everything, everywhere.*** Humans are certainly capable of complex emotions, and having more than one of them at the same time....and variable as the weather...no? Versus *Humans are* **never** *satisfied.* Accuracy is my goal*.* *I don’t think the Bible has low standards, it simply explains a reality you may not agree with, understand, or like.* The Bible does not simply explain anything....let alone reality. It does not explain a reality that I may not agree with, understand, or like. The Bible attempts to explain metaphysical properties...not physical reality. It is not a science book....yes? It is not attempting to explain reality....it is attempting to demonstrate a pattern of God that it would be wise for us to be aware/wary of. The Bible is full of imperfect people and imperfect gods. We can make of that what we will. And your insights on this topic have always been gratefully appreciated. Thank you for the time and energy that it takes to compose these threads....you are doing good work. Thank you. Your efforts to share your faith is admirable....and your gifted insights make it a pleasure to be a part of the conversation. Maranatha Brother Sonatime😇
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