Comment on How does someone run for office in todays time without selling out? by maurice

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maurice · 3/11/2025, 2:22:22 AM · permalink

I think that your first statement about what you fear is entirely true.  I had thought about starting a podcast/online presence but I came to the concussion in my head that I would simply be deplatformed at some point and instead focused on gaining wealth and influence in my community.  I have since moved away from my home town and to a nice regular place, so a lot of people around me are closer to my worldview now.    
  
Your second solution made me realize a possible route that piggy backs off of this idea.  Everyones favorite German politician actually did this, he did take some donation money from the usual sources to fund his campaign, and then pretty much backstabbed them.  He was though clear with his message the entire time, I guess they were trying to make him sell out and bribe him.  I do not think that is possible today, if you speak out against the machine you will be blacklisted from politics.   
  
A route that could be feasible though is to do like you said, gain exposure and choose a party and receive the funding and then once you are in a position of power show your true colors and do something cool like put us on the gold standard and disband the federal reserve.   
  
Would this be possible though without an entire movement behind you?  While this strategy could get you to power, you need congress and the rest of government (and support from the people) to enact anything like that.  In the switch up scenario you get elected but you may not be able to do much.    
  
Would it then be better to find a strategy for making these ideas more popular?  Instead of Germanys solution to the financial problem, I think we just need people to realize megacorps and banks are the problems, the ones controlling politics.  If the government declared vangaurd, blackrock, statestreet enemies of the state, sieze their assets, and just let the companies who they held stock in keep the money (ie. vanguard owns 13% of google, that stock just gets given to google for free).  End the Fed, Gold standard, limit usery severely (working towards outlaw IMO).    
  
I guess a follow up question would be is it necessary to make ideas like this popular in tandem with running someone who will do it?

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carp30mnia · 3/11/2025, 4:18:18 AM · permalink

Oh interesting, wasn't aware that was similar to the 'Painter's' playbook lol
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That's why ideally in the switch up scenario you have both/either:  
A) **Loyalists on the take:** foster a large/growing team with you that represent an 'underground' movement within a movement that had same intentions as you from the get-go. Prop them up to also being elected in strategic positions getting you 'in' with their support to implement the changes you want. (AIPAC have been largely successful with little resistance. Try to become informed about their modus operandi. Imo good guys don't organize covertly enough.).  
**Challenge**: the larger the group, the harder it is to keep track of and account for infiltrators within your own infiltration operation. If you wanted to be %%seriously%% under the radar, use covert operations. Ex: abandon all telecommunications involving your true purpose, only deal in physically written communication with other trusted members if you must, develop coded language, etc.

B) **Followers that already agree mostly**: Garner enough of a following with your brand of anti-corruption, while continuing to interpret things you support within their 'lens'. So you wouldn't be bait and switching them so much as making them come onto your side with reasons they appreciate.  
Ex: You could present abolishing the federal reserve with arguments that the base would agree with. Eventually trickle in other reasons not priority to the general base once it's more widely accepted, and they'll be more inclined to want further reasons to *dislike it* and feed into their bias. Aka more food to feed an already generated emotional investment.

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Yes, that would be the best method. But remember that the last time those powers were openly and loudly criticized was Occupy Wallstreet, how quickly that was shut down, and that's when identity politics were manifested to attack and divide people that had united against them. https://www.carolinajournal.com/opinion/is-identity-politics-a-distraction/

You'd have to make the attack more subtle and 'stomach-able' perhaps to those against it so resistance to it would be more difficult to directly attack at first, but also seeded into the mind of everyone. You can first introduce it as "Federal Reserve Reform" before going the slippery slope down to abolishment  much later on.  
  
Basically you have to become an expert in the psychological warfare currently being waged, unfortunately.  
  
At least there's always **C) Find a plot, community, and secede as a last resort:** If impossible to achieve on a national level... You, your collaborators, and followers can physically concentrate in and gain control of a state/province/etc. and then try to secede. At the end of the day you need at least SOME LAND and assured genuine representation in order to self-determine your future.

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