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Parent Post: What are some conspiracy theories you don't believe to be true
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3/29/2025, 5:54:03 PM
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Bro… there’s no way you already read the whole thing just this morning. You need to look at ALL the evidence before you discount it. The opening is just a prologue. I’m listening to the audio version today and I’m probably a quarter way though. https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/wagging-the-moondoggie-audio/
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3/29/2025, 6:20:14 PM
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I read the page you linked and responded to it's points. I found it long winded and not leading to any interesting information. The first few choices he makes to "Debunk the Moon Landing" are all easily proven false. So I countered the points and posted my response. If you want to have a debate I would prefer you present your information via links, screen shots and concise arguments and factual data. Here on Soj.ooO Not some guys long winded book I have to read and then we are 3rd party arguing over some text we may interpret in different manners. However if you want to link and present evidence on specific basis, I am more than willing to spend my time looking over it.
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3/29/2025, 8:07:15 PM
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To Clarify. And to save some time. Anyone who wants to debate this moon landing hoax I will provide my most useful source. https://www.clavius.org/ Yes I have seen Bart Sibrel, and many other moon hoax claims. Yes I've seen the shadows, and the flag moving. All the answers are at the above website with some searching. The foot prints, the video angles, the shadows, everything is rigorously explained. ```pre ``` **Now I'd like to discuss the Real Moon Landing Conspiracy.** ```code ``` in 1948 the State of Israel was created. Also in 1948 the United Nations passed "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" which included the right to personal property and property ownership. This opened up legal justification for the removal of Palestine. Amongst many other various international laws passed by the UN. I am just summarizing and presenting a timeline of events not going into every detail. In 1967 The "**Outer Space Treaty**" aka *Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies.* Before these 2 specific treaties were signed, amongst many others including various UN International Laws. The land was ruled by "The Right of Conquest" ^https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_conquest^ *"The right of conquest was historically a right of ownership to land after immediate possession via force of arms. It was recognized as a principle of international law that gradually deteriorated in significance until its proscription in the aftermath of World War II following the concept of crimes against peace introduced in the Nuremberg Principles. The interdiction of territorial conquests was confirmed and broadened by the UN Charter, which provides in article 2, paragraph 4, that "All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the purposes of the United Nations." Nations that have resorted to the use of force since the Charter came into effect have typically invoked self-defense or the right of collective defense"* Basically the Right of conquest is Finders Keepers, whoever Plants the flag and defends the territory wins. This is the basis of human civilization. **Now what happened in 1969**? The USA Planted the Flag of the United States of America on the Moon. This mean's either via The Right of Conquest, or UN International LAW. Whoever controls the USA & UN Controls and owns the Moon. Any country trying to reach the moon is subject to military enforcement by the USA and UN. Why doesn't China or Russia land on the Moon? What is the point, they realize it is basically an Act of War. There is nothing there they can claim. The Real goal here, as always, is to secure the resources of the Moon. Specifically Helium^3^. Also many other precious metals and minerals obviously as well. But Helium3 Is most likely the future of energy production and space travel for Humanity imo. While the technology to mine the moon isn't quite yet developed. It is on the way. I believe in 10 years time Moon Mining will commence. Once A.I and robotics can be engineered and commercially viably built. 2030 Is a big date, It is the End of the International Space Station. And likely we will see this trigger an event where many countries create new space stations, as Docking Ports and Storage facilities in-between Low Earth Orbit and the Moon. *"Oh look the ISS crashed into the ocean, we must raise your taxes to build new space stations"* Feel free to rip me apart but, this is my feelings on the subject. I have never been to space and I'm not a scientist or an astronaut. Just a guy that notices things, and spends too much time looking into rabbit holes. @nevertheless @thoughtcriminal\_1984 @erindipitty Perhaps I should just make this it's own post somewhere though so everyone can attack me for believing in the Moon Landing. Gets kinda sloppy in the comments.
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3/29/2025, 8:13:10 PM
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and yes I am also aware of deathbed confessions this:  and that this lady did not write all this code by herself:  I'm fully aware that Nasa probably has faked and does fake things. But someone/something put the American Flag on the Moon. And we have not Changed the Flag or added any new states since.
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