Comment on Two things all American antisemites should understand before uttering another word. by saarnok

Parent Post: Two things all American antisemites should understand before uttering another word.

saarnok · 3/9/2025, 7:20:58 PM · permalink

Who are "The Jews"?  
  
When we talk about the Italian mob, literally no one imagines we're talking about every person of Italian descent or extraction.  
  
So, when we say "The Italians" did 'X' we're not inundated with indignant pro-Italy partisans shrieking about our shocking "anti-Italian" sentiments.  
  
But "The Jews" have succeeded in dragging the entirety of people who somehow identify as "Jewish" in as cover for their nefarious activities.  
  
Not only have they successfully made it essentially impossible for the average person to make any statement about Israel, or more specifically, a tiny fraction of the Israeli population, or for that matter even just ONE person in this global population which is negative without it being publicized as some "antisemitic" hate crime.  
  
As to the script (well put): That's essentially the problem. From outside it looks as though the script is justification for being heinous bastards because that's the way you were going to be perceived to begin with. As soon as some significant number of the Goyim buy into the script it becomes utterly self fulfilling.  
  
And I don't agree there is no way of resolving the issue, which should be of little comfort since while the issue is obviously solvable, doing so depends on "Jews" by and large settling a few sticking points which would require that they with no apparent motivation repudiate the notion that they are "God's chosen people", that crimes commited by Jews against non-Jews could and should be judged exactly as crimes against Jews committed by non-Jews.  
  
In point of actual fact the U.S. by itself could exterminate the entire Middle East down to the bacteria in about thirty minutes to an hour as simply as throwing a switch. Every SINGLE  Jew in the U.S. could be rounded up and wiped out in less than thirty days, and the U.S. population in at least a majority cheering it on as mindlessly as they switched to hate "The Russians" overnight.  
  
Most people, the vast majority see the Trump admin as being under the control of Israel, and admittedly the signs seem to point in that direction. But, I'm betting (Like I have a choice.) that something deeper is happening beneath the surface.  
  
It literally doesn't matter in what direction events progress. "The Jews" will squeal about 'antisemitism' and with considerable success demand that all non-Jews lump all "Jews" into the same bucket.  
  
As is apparent even from your rather nuanced post, it's all but impossible to perceive the world in any fashion other than stupid Goy doing stupid things while enlightened Jews do smart things.  
  
Perhaps you don't see your post as some of us see it: An urging to quit recognizing "The Jews" for what they are.  
  
Israel was founded by as despicable a bunch of people, possibly worse on average (If that's possible.), as any other government on Earth. And it's just possible maybe that they're going to become recognized as such.

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saarnok · 3/11/2025, 12:51:45 PM · permalink

There's a reason why I consistently put quote marks around "The Jews".  
  
As should be apparent from pointing out that criticism of ANY bad guy who happens to be Jewish receives the response "antisemitism" it is THE BAD GUYS who've successfully dragged every other "Jew" in the world into their category, and MOST of them have bought into the same idea.  
  
Every once in a while we'll see some dirtbag get all indignant that someone is daring to question a JEW, that someone is attempting to hold a JEW accountable. And since other notable Jews don't condemn this kind of thing the rest of us are being perfectly reasonable in assuming they approve.  
  
Israel, our "greatest ally" doesn't even extradite criminals. Many people have noted that Jewish pedophiles escape to Israel, but it's really criminals of any sort.  
  
As to the Italian mob, unlike the Jewish mob, they didn't establish their home country's government. They didn't manage to turn Italy into a protectorate for their criminal members. They didn't manage to make virtually every person of Italian decent into cheerleaders for their mob. They didn't spend a hundred YEARS elevating a pedophile rapist murderer to some sort of sainted victim status to prove the point that "The Jews" are not to be held to the same standards as anyone else. They don't have their own peculiar holy books in which they claim everyone other than themselves is sub-human. They don't get to scream about being "persecuted" every time someone points out their wrongdoing.  
  
And all that said: Even if I DO say "the Italians" in some context of mob activity, I don't have to spell it out that I'm not talking about some moral failure or degeneracy peculiar to ALL Italians.  
  
It's not even necessary to identify someone as a "Jewish" reprobate, they'll do it themselves, and very loudly at that.  
  
And while I'm very much getting your point that people reacting to their evil actually plays into the narrative they've spun to their own followers that people are going to see them as evil, I'm not getting the sense that you're advocating a better method of dealing with them.  
  
You apparently believe that they have the means to kill the planet, which means it's utterly inevitable that they will do so. It's just a matter of when, not if. All it needs is for the right faction to be controlling the government, and... poof!  
  
So, you don't seem to want a solution for what they're doing wrong, but you are advancing a "solution" of sorts for what we're doing wrong, which is to stop telling the truth.  
  
Now, I'm sure you'd like to object to how I've characterized your position, but stop and think for a bit: Is there any way to express what you're trying to say that isn't going to boil down to "Stop telling the truth."?  
  
I'd like to add a little something here about the holocaust. Whether intentional or not, (And I do believe it's intentional.) the never ending, always increasing narrative of the holocaust serves the purpose of keeping Israelis in particular, but all Jews generally along with all zionists of whatever stripe justifying whatever atrocities "The Jews" commit. That's what the narrative is for. That's why it's promoted. That's why it's constantly expanded on.  
  
So, your criticism may well be valid, but what constructive advice do you have? Rather than a "don't", what's your "do"?

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