Comment on Why would you oppose polygamy/polyandry in N.A.? by seraphima

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seraphima · 5/30/2026, 11:06:05 AM (edited) · permalink

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hyokkim · 5/30/2026, 12:04:47 PM · permalink

''As always, you equate humans with animals.''  
  
Humans are animals, but not all animals are created equal.  
  
''Everything is about sex and pleasure.''  
  
No, it's about OTNI first, and within that constraint, maximizing sex and pleasure.  
  
''You dismiss the role of pair bonding as useless but it’s apparently a biological adaptation and one that I still advocate for based on my own personal ethics and convictions.''  
  
I am all for it so long as the pair are worthy enough; not all pairs are worthy enough, but they think they do, and/or society conditions them to think they can/should even when they can't.  
  
Why do you think we have 'No fault divorce'?  
  
''You’re right in that there are simply not enough viable candidates for marriage these days and it’s not people’s fault.''  
  
Yes, it is, poor parenting, and/or suboptimal results from biological lottery.   Just because a fella brings a lot of money doesn't necessarily mean he is optimal for lifetime pair bonding.  
  
''A man isn’t a “dumb fuck” because he can’t make enough money to support a wife and children.''  
  
I agree, but when he thinks he can when he can't, he does become a dumbfuck.  Would you want him as your eternal husband, and father of your children?  
  
''It’s not a personal failure but a social one......''  
  
Sometimes it is, some other times, it's both social and economic.    Why I support OTNI first, instead of individual rights.  
  
''....so changing the social order to allow many people to be as lascivious and reckless as possible won’t fix the problem you seem to have with the institution of marriage and the family.''  
  
It would be a part of the solution; men and women who are not worthy enough for marriage should stop deluding themselves, and indulge themselves with others like-minded, and leave the providing the next gen to those who are worthy enough.  Most of my ex-friends were not worthy, but they all thought they were!  
  
''At any rate, personally, since you asked, I think sloppy seconds are a grotesque offense. I’m an extremely jealous person and while I recognize that my husband is not me and is not a possession, he is my other half. I see him as an inextricable part of me and I of him. The idea that he goes off and satisfies himself with another woman makes me physically sick and I could never treat that other woman with the dignity and respect she deserves as a person. She’d always be a liability. I’m an all or nothing kind of person and, no, nothing will change my mind. I’ll cut a dumb fuck for even suggesting that I share. I’ll concede that I’m an irredeemably selfish person and I’ll stay that way.''  
  
I am not advocating mandating polygamy/polyandry, or multiple husbands/multiple wives relationship; I am advocating they should be allowed for consenting adults.   If a person wants a monogamy (I do), then they would be free to pursue such a relationship, just don't cheat!   Don't be a hypocrite.

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