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Parent Post: I fear this guy is right
gehstur
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9/8/2025, 10:15:33 AM
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The rightoid conservatives hate the schools because they were ridiculed and said stupid things at school. Schools are a social space where smart people come to learn new things and discuss things intelligently among many differing opinions, the most social opinions usually win. Social opinions being, yes to more social programs, like nationalized kinder-gardens, subsidised youth activities, especially healthy youth activities, more democracy, cleaner streets, cleaner homes, less violence, abuse, trash, fires etc. etc. The right wing has some kind of ideology where they think doing nothing is somehow big brain smart, bad cope. Capitalism and libertarianism ends up with south african gated communities paying for their own private security while voting for less and less government, meaning the national police in underfunded and they pay double tax, one tax for shitty state and one tax for private schools, private police, private military etc. etc. I mean, some people think its ok to live behind massive electric fences and for their children to drive their armored cars over dead people on the shitty roads to school. It doesn't have to be that way you know, you could live in Norway. Step one is to stop hating people. Step two is to talk to them.
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carp30mnia
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9/8/2025, 11:11:40 AM
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The claim that conservatives “hate schools” because they were ridiculed is a pretty unfair oversimplification. A lot of conservative critiques of education aren’t about personal grudges but about issues like curriculum, bureaucracy, perceived political bias, or government inefficiency. And framing schools as places where only “smart people” thrive while conservatives reject intelligence is just a strawman—it ignores the real, nuanced disagreements people have about how education should be run. South Africa is actually a bad example for that argument, because the country doesn’t represent pure capitalism or libertarian minimal government. It has a very large, interventionist state, high taxes, and expansive social programs on paper (*it’s one of the most interventionist governments in the developing world, in fact*), but chronic corruption and mismanagement mean those resources don’t translate into working public services. That’s why people end up hiring private security or sending their kids to private schools—not because the government “did nothing,” but because it did a lot *badly*. The problem there isn’t a lack of state involvement, it’s the failure of state institutions to deliver. People who opt for private solutions in that environment are making a rational choice. If anything, it shows that throwing more government programs at social issues isn’t enough; good governance and accountability matter more than just the size/funding of the government. While there are white-exclusive communities (i.e. Orania), there are other gated estates—like Dainfern, Val de Vie, Kyalami Estates, and Aspen Hills—which are much more racially diverse. These communities are focused on lifestyle, amenities, and security rather than cultural or ethnic exclusivity. And they offer reliable electricity, water, private security, schools, and healthcare — the basics people feel the government can’t always guarantee. This shows the situation is more complex than just “hatred.” I'm not saying this is ideal (far from it)—but reducing the problem to “just stop hating” (aimed only toward people seeking alternative solutions) misses the deeper reality: people often turn to private self-reliance out of necessity when the state itself is dysfunctional. In the end, self-determination isn’t just better than statism—it’s the only real safeguard against a failing state.
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gehstur
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9/8/2025, 11:58:09 AM
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South African government is extremely lenient to all kinds of lolbertarian efforts. Private schools should not be allowed, private security should not be allowed, electric fences should not be allowed, guns should not be allowed. Countries like China takes notice at the trend of gated communities, and they are horrified by it. They don't want the middle class to live separated by bulletproof glass, to the lower class. They look at British anglo classism as something to avoid at all cost. Thankfully Germany and other non english speaking white countries are not like this (yet) but they're getting there. China takes intelligent steps to mitigate classism, they don't outright ban electric fences like I suggested above, but they'll make small adjustment in their city-planning to deliberately blur the line between the classes as best they can. This is the type of government we need, a government without subverting jews, that looks at what works in the world and takes the best of what has been tried. Some capitalism to encourage productivity and development, and some socialism to mitigate all the negatives. China totally screwed over housing speculators in 2020 with their three red lines and made housing affordable to regular people as a state policy. "*houses are for living not speculating*" Based! China keeps doing this, and jews cry big tears. Exploiting should not be profitable. Monopolize exploitation and give the monopoly to the state. State gets to exploit, politicians should be bathed in money so they have all of their needs fulfilled and can instead concentrate on playing simcity irl.
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