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sacredcow · 8/16/2025, 5:17:29 PM · permalink

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hyokkim · 8/16/2025, 6:53:56 PM · permalink

''You love the word hypersonic missiles.

Those have been around since 1950's or so.

Its a fast missile.

Look up the SM-6.''  
  
You don't know the difference between hypersonic missile, vs hypersonic cruise missile!  
  
I've been talking about hypersonic cruise missile; they don't go into space, just staying close to the terrain; why so they are so hard to detect, and defend against.  
  
Hypersonic missile non-cruise, are merely ballistic missiles; that's not hypersonic cruise missile.  
  
USN cannot defend against hypersonic cruise missiles, much less hypersonic smart steath cruise missile pioneered by ROK.  
  
''That is why aircraft carriers have such a large area around them with many boats that defend the aircraft carrier.

They always have electronic surveillance in the air.''  
  
WW2 stuff!!!     Hypersonic cruise missile at hypersonic speed develop plasma on the outer shell in the front, and cannot be detected from radar, not from the front.       By the time, air surveillance detects the hypersonic cruise missile, it would be too late; they will be moving in for the kill at hypersonic speed.     
  
As for hypersonic smart stealth cruise missile pioneered by ROK, they are not detectable not just from radar from anywhere, but also from infrared as well.   They can even vary speed in real time, on demand, by shutting off the ramjet engine, and on, extending range even further, up to 4 times that of the conventional hypersonic cruise missile, and making it that much more difficult to intercept even if the enemy somehow could predict the path, but not the timing of its arrival.  
  
ROK even developed naked visual stealth material; that means the enemy couldn't even see it coming, even within visual range.  
  
https://www.dailysabah.com/life/science/chameleon-like-scientists-create-color-changing-artificial-skin  
  
''Good luck with shooting an aircraft carrier.

You will have to over whelm the American Navy, not many countries have that ability.''  
  
ROK is helping to build and maintain USN because U.S. no longer has the technology to do so in cost effective manner.  
  
https://www.kedglobal.com/shipping-shipbuilding/newsView/ked202502120006  
  
Why would ROKN want to overwhelm USN aircraft carrier?     
  
Unless later if USN aircraft carriers get in the way of ROKN blockading Israeli harbors to starve them into surrender?  
  
Then all ROK would have to do is to pull the plug on the shipyard, stop helping USN to build ships and maintain them!  
  
Btw.  ROKN already has the technology to overwhelm USN aircraft carriers, proven in RIMPAC.  
  
ROKN not only has hypersonic smart stealth cruise missile, but also smart, stealth, supercavitating torpedo as well.     
  
  
https://theaviationist.com/2024/07/29/south-koreas-poniard-at-rimpac-2024/  
  
  
In October 1992, Korea became the 43rd nation to join the submarine community. Since then South Korea and its Navy have demonstrated an outstanding capability with respect to submarine force construction, sustainment and operation.

In international exercises such as RIMPAC and Tandem Thrust, ROKN Type 209 submarines have demonstrated superiority in the detecting and attacking of powerful “enemies”.

In 1998 the ROKS LEE JONGMOO participated in RIMPAC (as did HMAS ONSLOW). It sunk 13 warships (150,000 tons) and was the only submarine to survive until the end of the exercise.

ROKS PARK WI participated in RIMPAC 2000 (HMAS WALLER participated also, with great success). Considering the 1998 RIMPAC achievements, “enemy” forces kept a close watch on PARK WI, making it a top priority for sinking during the exercise. However, she sank 11 enemy ships (96,000 tons) and, again, survived to the end of the exercise without being detected once by enemy forces. Admiral “Big Al” Konetzni, COMSUBPAC at the time, publicly praised the performance of the ROKN submarine.

In 2002 ROKS NA DAEYONG participated in RIMPAC (as did HMAS SHEEAN). It sank 10 enemy ships (100,000 tons) and, matching the trend, survived to the end of the exercise.

In 2004 it was ROKS CHANG BOGO’s turn to take part in RIMPAC (as did HMAS RANKIN). It successfully launched a total of 40 simulated torpedoes against 15 surface ships, including the nuclear aircraft carrier, USS JOHN C STENNIS, and her accompanying escorts. It survived until the end of the exercise without being counter detected and without mechanical issue.

ROKN submarine performance at these exercises has invited keen attention.

The ROKN have moved on to their next program, with three of a planned force of nine Type 214 submarines now commissioned. They have not looked backwards. Their submarine force doesn’t have any issues with respect to operating with the United States Navy, which they do on a more regular basis than our submarines.

RADM Doug McAneny said in 2009, “The Koreans are very strong allies in the region. They are frequent participants in many of the multi-lateral and bi-lateral exercises we do in the region and we do sub on sub work with them as well”.

Fight in the Dog

Mark Twain once said … It’s not about the size of the dog in the fight, it’s about the size of the fight in the dog.

It is clear that the ROKN submarine program has been highly successful. The ROKN have been involved in numerous exercises and operations over the past few years from Australia, to Hawaii and beyond – and done very well. They have boats with proven capability, which they are comfortable putting in harm’s way, with courageous, motivated, and well led professional crews.

SEA 1000 THE LESSONS OF COLLINS - APDR (asiapacificdefencereporter.com)  
  
Can Israel defend her harbors from ROKN?      After 2050, ROKN could blockade Israeli harbor if IDF misbehaves, and what is U.S. going to do about it when USN depends on ROK?

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