Comment on Wise as Serpents: A Biblical Look at Immigration by verus

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verus · 12/22/2025, 2:03:39 PM · permalink

You’re still circling around the same basic move: taking specific narratives about Israel (exile, Egypt, Babylon, Pilate, etc.) and treating them as if they were direct, timeless rules about modern border policy.

The question “Why should Israelites live under modern nation‑states that do not keep the promissory covenant?” assumes that ethnic or national Israel today is still under the same Old Covenant arrangement as in Exodus/Leviticus. From a Christian standpoint, that covenant has been fulfilled in Christ and the people of God is now defined by union with Him, not by geography or modern passport.

The exiles in Babylon (Jer 29) were *sent there by God as judgement*, and they were told to seek the welfare of that city—not to treat any and every land as theirs by right, outside law or ruler.

Pilate is, in fact, an example of “human stewardship assigned by God” (Romans 13), and yet still morally accountable; his existence does not negate the reality or legitimacy of earthly rulers or borders.

None of this overturns what I wrote: that Scripture affirms nations and boundaries, differentiates individual charity from the duties of rulers, and presents hospitality as ordered rather than suicidal. Your replies haven’t actually engaged those arguments; they’ve just added new proof‑texts around the edges.

I’ve explained my view as clearly as I can. I’m not going to keep repeating myself or debating this in circles, so I’ll leave it here.

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tajudeen_bin_tijani · 12/22/2025, 2:18:21 PM · permalink

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