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Parent Post: “Catholics aren’t real Christians” is such a stupid take
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3/19/2025, 4:39:01 AM
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How exactly and where exactly would a "Book of book" be able to tell you to "rely on it alone" when the Canon wasn't even established in an official sense yet? No where in the Bible does it say "Trinity" either, but its there none the less.
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3/19/2025, 4:12:12 PM
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These are actually fair questions. So first, how do we know that we are to rely upon the Bible alone? The whole purpose of divine revelation is to (1) reveal to the world the Triune Godhead, the Christ, the law, the Gospel, etc.;(2) to guide us into all spiritual truth, including salvific truth (\[1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God"); (3) to point us to how we are to live in light of salvation; (4) to reveal the eternal consequences of rebellion against God; and (5) to establish the perfect, inerrant, legitimacy of the word of God (the Bible), of Christ (God the Word made flesh), and of the sovereign authority of God. The book of Revelation is the final book of the entire Bible, it is the last book of the Bible, it is the final piece of Divine Revelation to that Divine Revelation from God (in book/scroll form, called the Bible) that reveals God to us. We read in Revelation chapter 22 (the final chapter of the final book of the Bible) "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book..." God puts a curse, if you will, a threat of mighty judgment, upon anyone who adds to the words of the prophecy of this book.... But what is "this book"? Now some say "that just means we can't add to the book of Revelation!" Nonsense, that makes no sense. What? Can we add to the books of Genesis, Daniel, Proverbs, Matthew, Luke, Romans, Philippians but not to the book of Revelation? Of course not.... that makes absolutely no sense. Some say, "Well we can receive additional divine revelation but we just can't add it to the Bible!" But why, if God is revealing more, and it is legitimately from Him, what is the logical purpose of not adding God's own words and revelations to His own word, His own book, the Bible? It truly makes no sense. Clearly, this 18th verse, in the last chapter, of the last book, of the Bible is sealing off further divine revelation. We are not to add new, supposedly divinely revealed" knowledge, or new visitations, or new visions, or new teleportations, or telepathy, or new telekinesis, or new prognostications, or new "tongues/vain babbling," or new truly-massively-supernatural healings (e.g., a guy with a missing leg all of a sudden has it back again), or new ecstatic laughing, convulsions, acting drunk, etc., or any other such thing the charismatics, pentecostals, romanists, and cultists claim. God makes it clear that the believer now has the more sure word of prophecy; we have all truth (all that God intends to divinely reveal to us is in the Bible), and the notion that most haven't even read the Bible once, let alone numerous times (to get all out of it that they possibly can, Holy Spirit-enabling), but that they should be seeking for, or listening to, or focusing upon "non-biblical revelation" instead.... is absurd. As for the Trinity, another good question. Some reject the Trinitarian evidence of 1 John 5:7, saying it should not be in scripture, but I believe it is canon for reasons too long to type out here "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." Some reject that Matthew 3:16-17 reveals a Trinity "And Jesus \[i.e., God the Word made flesh\], when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God \[i.e, the Holy Spirit\] descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven \[i.e., God the Father's voice\], saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." Then look at John 1:1-3, 14 "In the beginning was the Word \[i.e., the Lord Jesus Christ\], and the Word was with God \[i.e., God the Father\], and the Word was God \[i.e., the Lord Jesus Christ is God\]. 2 The same was in the beginning with God \[i.e.,with the Holy Spirit, or with the Father, or with both seeing that all three divine Persons are One God\]. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. ... 14 And the Word was made flesh \[i.e., Jesus Christ became incarnate\], and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (i.e., God the Father),) full of grace and truth. Note also that Elohim is a plural term. Jehovah/Yahweh God is the only uncreated, all-sovereign, all-mighty Elohim. However, elohim is a plural term, why? As it relates to the One True \[Jehovah/Yahweh\] God, it is because He is One God, who subsists as three distinct, tri-equal, Persons (Father, Word/Son, and Holy Ghost). They are three distinct Persons sharing the one same divine essence, nature, purpose, will, and divine being. There are other passages I could share, but again, look at how long this is already.
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