The Unseen War and the Silent Sabotage

sirjhonson · 4/30/2025, 3:28:04 AM · permalink

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mirukitsune · 4/30/2025, 5:54:22 AM · permalink

We're just having a conversation, and I genuinely respect your comments — as I've said before. The only way we can truly understand more is to keep the dialogue going. So here's my take: it may not be much, but I offer it in good faith. Let’s make this a fair deal — I listen to you, you listen to me, and we both agree there’s no offense taken. Just mutual respect in the pursuit of deeper understanding.  
  
🛡️ Core Rebuttal Strategy: "America First Means No One Comes Before America"

1\. “Pro-Israel is not the same as Zionist puppet.”

President Trump made strategic alliances, just like he did with Saudi Arabia, North Korea, and even Russia. That doesn’t mean he’s controlled by them. He’s not a servant—he’s a negotiator.

2\. “His actions served America’s interests.”

Moving the embassy? That was a promise to evangelical voters. The Abraham Accords? They reduced tensions in the Middle East—less war, more trade. Everything he did was calculated to benefit America first, not Israel.

3\. “His inner circle doesn’t define his identity.”

Yes, Jared Kushner is Zionist-leaning—but that’s his son-in-law, not his brain. Trump surrounds himself with people from all ideologies (remember Steve Bannon?). That’s not proof of loyalty—it’s proof of strategy.

4\. “Religious gestures don’t make someone owned.”

He wore a kippah and visited the Wall, just like every president does. That’s diplomacy, not devotion. He also visited the Vatican. Is he the Pope’s servant too?

6\. “If he was Israel’s slave, why did they react differently to Biden?”

Biden plays by the script.... obedient, reliable, always on cue.

Trump tears up the script. He’s unpredictable, uncontrollable—a force you can’t leash or bribe. One keeps the system smooth. The other keeps it sweating.

“Trump isn’t a Zionist puppet. He’s a businessman who made a deal with everyone—including Israel—when it served American interests. That’s not slavery. That’s strategy. If he were truly controlled, he wouldn’t have pulled U.S. troops out of the region or told Congress Israel no longer pulls the strings. The man’s loyalty is to himself and his voters—period.”

🗣️ Trump’s Criticism of Israel and AIPAC Influence

One of the most striking things Trump said was:

“Israel literally owned Congress, and now it doesn’t. And that’s a bad thing.”

– Donald Trump, interview on Ari Hoffman Show, October 2023

On the surface, this sounds like he’s lamenting a loss of influence, but read between the lines—this is Trump’s classic sarcasm. He’s pointing out that Israel used to dominate U.S. politics, especially through lobbying power like AIPAC, and that now, with shifting alliances and increasing scrutiny, that dominance is slipping.

If he were truly “owned,” he would never publicly acknowledge that Israel used to own Congress. That statement undermines the illusion of independence that Zionist lobbying groups try to maintain. It would be political suicide for most U.S. leaders to say this. But Trump said it.

🧩 Other Examples of Subtle Criticism

1\. Refusing to Bomb Iran Over Israel’s Urging

During his presidency, Israel pushed the U.S. to take military action against Iran. Trump instead chose economic sanctions and negotiations, not war. That’s not serving Israel—that’s avoiding their preferred outcome.

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sirjhonson · 4/30/2025, 10:55:58 PM · permalink

I don't dislike you or feel offended by your words, man, but you seem very blinded when it comes to Trump. You faild to speak on the most daming comments he made. The one about us having too many silly freedoms that he doesn't like, and the one about him wanting to get rid of the consitution. Because you have no comeback for thouse. I was just like you, i worshipped Trump. At first, me and many others had a hard time coming to terms with the fact that Trump is just the same as any other president before him. Left or right. They have all been owned by the same people. They might act slightly different and pretend like they stand by different things, but at their core, they are all the same. Trump said he was gonna stop the Russia/Ukraine war on day one. It's still going. The economy is worse than it was before. Everything is more expensive. He is using our tax dollars to fund more MRNA vaccines with Bill Gates and Sam Altman. Same technology as the Covid vaccine, which he also spearheaded. He is also using his presidential power to force the vaccines through without any proper testing. Not dangerous at all. Israel is bombing Iran as we speak. Trump is sending aid to help fight Iran. So there's that. I get that people like you want someone to worship and stand behind, a lot of you need God badly and the lack of him in your heart, makes you want to worship a human being to fill that void. But human beings are flawed. And then enters the Pride, the worst sin by far. Now you've invested so much when it comes to Trump, you have talked so well about him to family and friends. Stood by him, defended him. You can't turn back now and look like a fool, that's how you feel. So you keep excusing his "mistakes" or bad choices. Keep thinking he has a plan. That in the end he will come through. Soon, it is gonna be too late to turn back. You will all see that we were right, and nothing will be able to be done at that point. It is already pretty obvious where he stands. But many of you still don't see his true colors. This saddens me, but as much as I fight it, I know it must happens. This was all destined to happen. We are all just pawns of fate and higher beings. And just like the pawns we are, we will destroy ourselves with our pride and hatred of God. I for one, welcome the chaos. For I know we need it in order to get better as a society. For our lord and savior, Jesus to come lead us into a better world. A small part of me really hoped fate could be changed and all this pain avoided. But I guess, as Paul says, many “… shall turn their ears away from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables” (2 Timothy 4:4). Not much we can do but see it all play out. It sadness me that people are this blind to the truth, and I don't hate you. I'm just drained and tired. I thought there was hope for us yet.

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