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10/8/2025, 12:59:36 AM
What is a Leftist?
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frajuan
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10/15/2025, 1:59:42 AM
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Why the hell didn't you ask me what Leftists are? I grew up in Kenosha. A hard-core union town. I can tell you things you would never believe. Why is that? You think people are all the same. That we all have an opinion. You don't believe there is an objective truth. Where did you learn that? And why can't learn anything from these posts here? You are a skeptic or sap. which one is it? The leftists think you are a sap.
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saarnok
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10/18/2025, 12:01:28 AM
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I'm sorry this post has triggered your... whatever the hell is wrong with you. You're from a "hardcore union town". And??? What the hell does that have to do with anything? You can tell me things I'd never believe? How about doing that rather than whatever the hell it is you're doing here? "You think people are all the same?" I do? Maybe you should expand on that. "That we all have an opinion." Yeah, I suppose I do think that. Maybe not one you've arrived at through some rational process, but still... "You don't believe there is an objective truth." Really? Tell me more. Because I'm not aware of having that opinion, let alone where I might have learned it from. I'm curious if you've even read the post you're reacting to. I see no sign of it.
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frajuan
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10/21/2025, 1:24:05 PM
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OK. You want answers? I'm from Kenosha. You ask, "What the hell does that have to do with anything?" Do you know what came from that town? Snap-On Tools. Nash/AMC. American Brass. MacWhyte Wire Rope. Kenosha, the home of Orson Welles, and many Hollywood actors. I knew the Pollards. Grew up next door to Joe Andrea and his family. I met Joe Pepitone when I was a boy. You might not know this Sarnak, but there are people in America who are the elites. These are all Leftists. And that makes me qualified to speak. Why? Because I know what Leftists are and how they think. Not because I wanted to, but because I was forced to live in their system. I would love to just invent things, work in my shop, and read hundreds of books I have here. You are talking to a guy who had to register for the draft in 1973, and long before that feared for my brother Dave who might be drafted. I fought against it then, and the govt is much much bigger now. I spent thousands and thousands of truck driver dollars fighting it. I fought for your kids, Sarnak. so have some respect, you punk. Go walk you dog. By the way, your relationship with your dog is very bad for your image.
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saarnok
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10/21/2025, 1:49:35 PM
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Well, that's at least some sort of reply. It doesn't make any actual sense. But, it's a reply. I never asked about any qualifications to speak on the subject, and you haven't bothered to speak to the subject: "What is a leftist?" You know how leftists think. Fine. Let's hear it. HOW do they think? You had to register for the draft? Which has what to do with the subject? There are elites? Which has what to do with the subject? Unless this is all related to what happens in their heads, and you also explain what's happening in their heads, nothing you're raving about has anything to do with the question. Leftists make decisions differently than other people. Why? What are they processing, how are they processing it? Is it just my dog that hurts my image in your fantasy world? Or are the cats a problem too? How about the birds in the trees? Maybe having trees is bad? How about my garden? Is that okay with you? Clearly I need to check in and clear every aspect of my life with you to preserve my image. Mister. You ARE a leftist. You're not reasoning from any principles. You're just making declarations. You don't need to support anything with reason because only your passions matter. That's what makes a leftist. And your strenuous objections to the exact world your thinking leads to doesn't change a thing. This is your world. Not mine. Their thinking, that you learned as a child, is that if you demonstrate sufficient emotional conviction, sufficient contempt for anyone who might disagree with you, demand accession to whatever lunacy you insist on, then reality will simply conform to your wishes. That's leftism in a nutshell.
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frajuan
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10/21/2025, 7:52:35 PM
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You are not getting away with that. That might work on your Maoist buddies, but not me. I told you what you call normal, is not normal. You see no problem with pets? Then you aren't paying attention. You aren't fooling me. You say you don't follow sports? That may be the only valuable thing you have said right now. But don't tell me I'm the leftist. You went to school, and to work, and got a job with the govt, just like my father did. You thought you were doing the right thing. Paying your taxes, the mortgage, raising children, cleaning up dog excrement and spreading toxoplasmosis. That wasn't enough, Sarnack. You were wrong! Now GOD is punishing you. Your children are being tortured and killed. What do you do? Hang out with animals, and relate to human beings as if they were subhumans. You are not only a Leftist, sir, you are subhuman. You abandoned your children.
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saarnok
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10/21/2025, 10:52:29 PM
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That's a fascinating fantasy you're living in there. I got a job with the government? Fascinating. Why don't you tell me about this job I'm unaware of? Was I a secret agent man? Cause that sounds kind of cool! My children are being tortured and killed? Maybe. But they're not really acting like they have a problem. Mostly just raising their own grandchildren. No sir. You ARE a leftist. You believe your insane ranting informs the world around you, prescribes it. That's what a leftist is, regardless of whether they call themselves Nazi, Fascist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican, Conservative, Liberal. It doesn't matter. Simply as a matter of chance modern conservatives tend to do that less than modern liberals and tend to relegate that sort of thinking into explicitly religious matters while using right thinking more often in day to day matters. You don't have any competing definition for Leftist to argue over. You don't have any epistemological bifurcation between left and right. Oh, I'm completely convinced you're not a leftist in your own mind. But, short of some actual differentiation between how you think and how leftists think, I really don't see how you can possibly argue you're not one. What's the difference? Honestly? It's just a label you apply to people you dislike, disrespect or otherwise want to disparage. It doesn't actually mean anything real to you. it's just a noise you make when you get upset, not a meaningful observation of any actual thing. Also, there's this bit of projecting characteristics, often quite specific ones onto other people. That's leftist thinking. The declaration of "bad thing", in your hilarious example, shaming me for having a dog, and expecting me to apologize or defend it by buying into your bizarre and moronic framing. Berate me for having a home and expecting me to aplogize or defend it by buying into your framing. Complaining about being treated as a "subhuman" because I don't kowtow to your insipid, puerile complaints. That's leftism. You've been treated vastly better than you deserve, at least by me. You're a lunatic. A leftist. And you've got no respect among people who asses reality on it's own terms.
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frajuan
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10/22/2025, 12:39:55 AM
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You say: "You've been treated vastly better than you deserve, at least by me." So. What do you think should happen? I should be beaten, denied employment, killed perhaps? All that and more has happened to me. What does that make you? That is fascism, but you think you are a 'good' man, right?
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saarnok
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10/22/2025, 1:26:00 AM
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I had no reason to act as though you would ever behave as if you were not a lunatic. I treated you as if you were a slightly confused person with a different point of view. What you have demonstrated is that you're a lunatic leftist who does not deserve that level of consideration. You deserve to be treated as someone with few if any redeeming qualities. You write pretty decent sentences. You don't use vulgar language in your rants. You're probably not a serial killer. I doubt that you torture small animals for pleasure. That's about it.
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frajuan
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10/22/2025, 10:05:27 PM
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I'm not confused about anything concerning you, sir. You think you are a nice man? a good person? Nobody who knows me would believe the lies you said about me. I was right about you from the start. You are a thug. How did I know? I've known punks like you all my life, sir. You think it is cute to have pets, and you see nothing wrong with it. You are wrong about so many things, but this is the worst. It is subhuman to compare people to animals. You live like an animal and smell like one. And certainly act like an animal. GOD is punishing you for hurting your children, handing them over to the Maoists/State. I told you to change your mind, and you won't. Go walk your dog. Apparently, you cannot relate to human beings.
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saarnok
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10/23/2025, 1:31:55 AM
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You are genuinely special. I guess "god" is oddly benign in it's punishment of me. Can't complain along those lines. You're a leftist. You just are. You think putting a label on people turns them into whatever you imagine that label means. You think you define reality. You're not a soothsayer. You're just a deeply confused, disagreeable old man. All that said: I think I like you. I've known any number of people you remind me of.
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frajuan
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10/23/2025, 1:48:45 AM
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You are a POS.
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saarnok
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10/23/2025, 2:19:33 AM
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Awesome. You could definitely get more creative though. There are at at least a dozen languages and cultures you could mine to futilely attempt to insult me you fuzzy wuzzy liddle man. Oh yes. I'll understand all of them. No problem. God, I love this! Leftist hurls insults as if they define reality! You just won't stop making my case for me! It's apparently out of your control. You've been conditioned to not reason and no matter how much incentive you get to do so... you just won't!
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frajuan
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10/23/2025, 2:31:08 AM
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What a waste.
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saarnok
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10/23/2025, 2:38:07 AM
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Oh, don't say that. I'm sure you've done something useful in the last seventy odd years. And you were probably sane for part of that time. Don't be so hard on yourself.
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frajuan
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10/23/2025, 2:53:09 AM
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Ha! Yeah. I listened to Bob Dylan songs. Ha! And went to political meetings. I was thrown out of a meeting with anarchists in Milwaukee. What have you done, punk?
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saarnok
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10/23/2025, 3:02:23 AM
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I helped overthrow the Soviet Union. While you were kicking around Kenosha, leftisting, I was networking with the people who infiltrated the Iron Curtain and building networks between dissidents from Russia to Poland to East Germany. Oh, don't get me wrong. It's not like I had any input, like they wouldn't have done exactly what they did without me. But, I was there. Idiot.
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frajuan
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10/23/2025, 4:00:35 AM
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OK. That is impressive. I worked on the assembly line at AMC. If you did that. Why should I believe you? You would not believe me if I told you the Mob, with connections in Kenosha had a hand in JFK assassination, would you? The Mob put a hit on me in 1975. Jerry Bruno's brother thought it was justified. They said "He deserves it." But I was hit in 1973. Put in the hospital again. Have you had your ass kicked, sir? I'd like to kick your ass sideways right now for being an asshole. You son of a bitch.
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10/23/2025, 2:40:50 PM
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Nope. I have no problem believing you worked at AMC. Seems perfectly reasonable. Nope. Any serious researcher who isn't being paid to produce disinformation knows the mob was involved in JFK's assassination. Kenosha was a union town. The mob was deep in the unions, so, obviously, Kenosha was a mob town. Starting to get a little off when we suppose that the Kenosha based mob had something to do with it, but, while I can totally buy that someone tried to kill you in 75, Bruno's brother died WAY before 75, assuming you're talking about Bruno from Kenosha who set up the Dallas trip for Kennedy. There's a different Bruno who operated out of New York starting in the 90's, primarily in the weed trade from Canada, but he wasn't even born until 73. But, he worked for the Gambinos while Kenosha was under the Balistrieri family from Milwaukee, and Don Bruno (Angelo) ran the Bruno-Scarfo family out of Philadelphia and his brother Vito reportedly stayed in Philadelphia as well. Given your extremely tenuous grip on reality and your obvious general confusion regarding the world around you, my sense is that you're deeply confused about things you probably used to know. Or, and this is seeming increasingly likely. You're confabulating a story of your heroics and inside knowledge. My guess is you read about Bruno being connected to Kennedy and blurred every other fact to fit your narrative. The brother of a local mobster says you deserved to get hit, you think Jerry Bruno's in the mob, know he was somehow involved in setting up Kennedy, that he's from Kenosha and sort of squish it all together. It's been nine years since Jerry Bruno from New York was sentenced for murder which is way more than enough time even for a healthy mind to blend those disparate facts together. It kind of makes a strange sort of sense that you'd remark that Bruno's brother said you deserved it, since Bruno was known for avoiding violence and it would be pretty meaningful if he put a hit on you. Don Bruno was the boss in Philadelphia in the seventies, and I guess you didn't actually specify you were hit in Kenosha, but that's Angelo Bruno, not Jerry Bruno. Don Angelo's brother was alive in the seventies, not Jerry Bruno's brother. Now, some pretty damn suspect coincidences exist for the contention that Jerry Bruno was actively involved as he later worked for Johnson and then went to run RFK's travel arrangements until he was taken out. If there's ever been a guy dirtier than Johnson, I can't readily name him. I guess Roosevelt, maybe, but in a slightly different way. But, people didn't necessarily work for Johnson on an entirely voluntary basis. Regardless. Jerry Bruno isn't looking like mob and his brother was long dead by the seventies.
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frajuan
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10/24/2025, 4:06:12 PM
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You can't be expected to know who these people are, who I'm talking about. They lived in the shadows, with their big leftist smiles, while running the govt and neighborhoods. Nobody knows their neighbors. I did not know who the Bruno's were until last year. They lived right down the street! They weren't related to the ones in NYC, as far as I know. You are mistaken about Jerry Bruno. He passed in 2013.
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saarnok
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10/24/2025, 5:30:18 PM
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I never claimed he was alive or that he died at all. But, my information is he died in 2008. As near as I can determine no person named Jerry Bruno died anywhere in 2013. Jerry Bruno from Kenosha ended up running transportation for JFK and later RFK.
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