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Parent Post: On the nature of "God" from a non-theological perspective.
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sacredcow
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2/28/2026, 12:38:45 AM
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I hope something is true. There, thats my logic for the night. I prove my statement by saying my statement. Hope in one hand, reality in the other. Guess which one always wins?
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saarnok
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2/28/2026, 12:43:01 AM
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That's not a logical statement in any way that I read it. Why would you hope that something is true? You proclaim that something is not true, which inverted demonstrates that you are claiming your own declarations to be true... which as conditional "hope" means they are plainly not true in the sense that you don't know them to be true which is the claim you are explicitly making.
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sacredcow
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2/28/2026, 12:44:46 AM
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Yes, it makes as much logical sense as saying if I disprove your idea of god, that is proving it. Circular logic. You are nothing but a religious zealot for your new hope in a god.
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saarnok
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2/28/2026, 2:57:51 AM
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Okay. Make your case. My position is that "god" is the universe. Your position appears to be: "Bastard!!!! You used the word, 'GOD'!!!" So, your position is that the universe is ordered by... not the universe??? What's your other option? I'll be fascinated to hear your reply, preferably in a post where you lay it all out for everyone to see. Oh, and if you can, why don't you tell us all whether you're objecting to me believing in the bible or objecting to me not believing in the bible. Because you seem to be on both sides of that.
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