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Parent Post: Sure bud
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sonatime
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4/15/2025, 12:47:28 PM
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We don't agree on the context there. God commands "You shall not give any of your children to offer them \[by fire as a sacrifice\] to Molech \[the god of the Ammonites\], nor shall you profane the name of your God \[by honoring idols as gods\]." I suppose you are wondering why God required the killing of the conquered, maybe it was punishment. Most nations were wicked otherwise probably would be spared in my opinion. I accept God's judgement and try to understand the context and examples if they exist. The only relevant child sacrifice is God testing Abraham's faith by requiring him to sacrifice Isaac and then intervening. Blood is precious and sacred to God, the Mosaic Law was a foreshadowing of Christ sacrifice. Do you know any other God than YHWH? The ultimate author of the Bible is God - "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." If you know the Bible, how can you choose any other God? Do you know any other book with comparable influence?
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4/15/2025, 1:24:22 PM
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You are very wrong. YHVH commanded the Israelites not to offer up their children to "other gods". Have you not read any of the verses I've quoted? Also, Christianity is based on the crucifixion of Jesus, a human blood sacrifice for the atonement of sins. Are you going to deny this too? Jesus is the sacrificial "Lamb of YHVH", a human blood sacrifice. Christians actually sing in church about being "Washed In The Blood Of The Lamb". The Christian religion is based on a human blood sacrifice. The false god YHVH says, "Without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness of sins". Do you seriously think it is just and moral for your god to require the blood of the innocent, human or animal, before he can forgive the crimes of the guilty? This is devilish insanity, it is both unjust and utterly immoral. God does not require the shedding of blood before He can forgive, but the devil YHVH does. Seriously dude, do you have any idea of what the Christian Communion and the Catholic Eucharist actually represents? It is evil to the core. I'm telling you the truth but I know you are not the least bit interested in the truth. Right dude?
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sonatime
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4/15/2025, 2:24:45 PM
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It is difficult to address things in detail because you mention a scripture or two and then you start emotionally ranting. Maybe if you would ease up on some of that overreaction it would be easier to communicate. We are clearly on different frequencies here. I think we should restart to actually make sense. let start from the beginning. Who is YHWH to you? and who is God? to me it is the same God but I see a distinction you are making in your comment. Feel free to explain. Do you have any interest in the Bible personally besides trying to prove points? Do you accept it that it is supposed to be understood in its entirety. Who is Jesus in your understanding? I made these notes before I realized we really should cover the basis but I am leaving them here: Jesus sacrifice was prophesied multiple times in the old testament. If you read the Paul's letter to Hebrews he explains who Jesus is in detail. Under the Mosaic Law God required animal sacrifices and until Jesus Christ. https://www.gotquestions.org/death-resurrection-Messiah.html In the Parable of the Wicked Husbandmen (Matthew 21:33-46), a vineyard owner sends his servants to collect the produce from his vineyard. When the tenants (represented by the people of Israel) repeatedly disrespect and kill his servants, he finally sends his son. The tenants then kill the son, hoping to inherit the vineyard. This parable is interpreted as a prophecy about the Jewish leaders rejecting Jesus, God's Son
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4/15/2025, 5:19:28 PM
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I'm over reacting? lol. In 1.Corinthians 15:4 The Apostle Paul says that Jesus "was buried and raised again on the third day according to the scriptures". Paul was referring to the scriptures of the Old Testament when he made this claim, but nowhere in the Old Testament does it say that the messiah would die and be resurrected on the third. I've read it all over and over again, it says no such thing. This 'so called' prophecy is a lie. In fact most of the prophecies that the New Testament claims that Jesus fulfilled are lies. The New Testament authors took Old Testament scriptures right out of context time and time again and claimed that Jesus fulfilled OT prophecies. Its all lies. If you go through each prophecy that the Gospels claim were fulfilled by Jesus and then look up these so called prophecies in the OT you will see that it is all lies. For example, when Jesus was an infant he was taken to Egypt because Herod sought to kill the child. Matthew 2:14-15 When he \[Joseph\] arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt; and was there until the death of Herod; that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of YHVH by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt I called my son. But if you go to this so called prophecy in the OT it says something very different Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a child, then I loved him, and called my son out of Egypt. This fake prophecy does not refer to Jesus at all, and it isn't even a prophecy. Go through every so called prophecy that the NT claims that Jesus fulfilled and then go to the corresponding prophecy in the OT, its all lies. The Bible is the biggest scam the Jews have ever pulled on the world.
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