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logical · 3/30/2025, 7:19:55 PM · permalink

It means I can pray to God wherever whenever I want or need to.  I don't need a church, or to name my faith.  Jesus did not name the faith, Man did.    
  
I have nothing against Christians.  I just dislike the Modern Church and labels.  Modern Churches are full of charlatans, excess, and greed.  
  
To quote a wise man:  
  
"The Apostle Paul tells us we are the Temple. In his letter to the Corinthians, Paul writes to tell Christians in that city that God’s presence is not just above and around them but within them. They are the very “Body of Christ” on earth, they are the “temple of the Holy Spirit”—living, breathing sanctuaries.

The idea of them needing to visit a specific place to have proximity to God was now ludicrous. They were the place. They needed only to go inward. This is the heart of the Church then. It still is; not where they gather, but as they gather.

Jesus tells the disciples to remember Him. At their final meal before His death, Jesus offers bread and wine as a symbol of his coming sacrifice. He then asks them to remember him when they break bread together in the future.

He is not telling them to establish a weekly worship service or to create a rigid liturgy or to institute a sacrament. He is commanding them not to forget Him; to live together and to eat and to remember. No sanctuary is necessary for this. This is a fully portable experience.

The truth is Jesus was teaching something very different from what the word “church” means to us today. We’ve grown up in the building and the system and the tradition, so we believe that this is the Church. But the Church as a place you visit for an hour on Sunday where God shows up, or where community can solely be found—simply isn’t Biblical.

Jesus’ ministry was about de-centralizing religion, so that the people carried it, not the synagogue or temple or the sanctuary."

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coldwave · 3/30/2025, 9:17:51 PM · permalink

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logical · 3/31/2025, 12:45:28 AM · permalink

I don't think he would be angry.  And Certainly not at a worshipper.  I don't think Jesus would be angered by a sheep, but more so possibly the Shepherd, or Pastor.  People make mistakes and get led down the wrong path by charlatans, God made us this way, so why be angered.  
  
As long as the Pastor is leading his flock by his words, than I see no problem.  Even if a Pastor eventually falls down the wrong path and starts to abuse his flock by using too much fire and brimstone in his sermons, than he can still repent and ask to be forgiven his sins.  As the Pastor is just a man too.  
  
I don't have any problem with the Eucharist, thats What Jesus asked those who spread his word to do.  To spread the Eucharist to the masses along with the word.  However it's also usually followed by a collection plate, being passed around to everyone.  This I do not like, as it puts undo shame onto those who are poor.  If they cannot sacrifice monetarily.  Those around them can sometimes shame them.  
  
I don't hate Cathedrals, I think they are beautiful Monuments.  But I do not think that is was Jesus wanted in my opinion.  While it can be noble to dedicate your life and all of your money and belongings to the church.  This is not how Jesus wanted people to live their mortal lives on earth imo.  
  
I have nothing against Church per se, or people who go to them regularly.  I just haven't found one that stuck for me.  And I worship God in my own way that is personal between him and myself, the way he told me too.  And I've had some bad experiences with a couple churches.

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coldwave · 3/30/2025, 8:33:00 PM · permalink

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