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sonatime · 11/5/2025, 8:40:15 AM · permalink

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q2025 · 11/5/2025, 1:36:49 PM · permalink

No issues. I heard the pastor. He's very knowledgeable and I believe he's sincere. I also think he's a little mistaken in some things, which I'll clarify.

To do that, let me give you my version of history and you can feel free to disagree and disregard but at least it'll give you really yummy food for thought and might just click with your soul.

So first, just for now, lets disregard labels of religion. Lets just call people atheists, monotheists and polytheists or pagans. Monotheists can have different opinions about the nature of the one God so just to clarify we are talking about Humans that generally believe in one god and heaven for good humans and hell for bad humans. Lets also agree that not all belivers and monotheists are the same, some are good people but others are simple sinners and some are demons, or satanic. You can believe in a God and still sin, or even choose to outrightly ally with Satan. Now that we have this framework we can work out the rest.

So God creates Adam and he is a monotheist and a good man. But a few generations down the line some people have, knowingly or unknowingly, started sinning. So God sends reminders through a long line of messengers or prophets. These are humans that God chooses as conduits or mediums to relay his messages. Some people accepted these reminders but most just mocked the messengers. Imagine someone going to a church today and saying every woman should wear a veil, banks should stop charging interest and Jesus preached purification of souls and the whole concept of a cross, or a mega church or a pope are later inventions and never mentioned by Jesus. He would be 100% right but he would get laughed out of church. Same thing.

A few people would reform and return to the true religon which was to worship one God, having no partners and no subservient dieties like storm god, war god, fertility dieties etc. and do good deeds, avoid murder and rape etc. But most other people wouldn't accept the messengers, either because it conflicted with ancestral traditions or because it was difficult to give up price gouging, interest, the cheapest meat (pigs), women etc.

And these people who rejected the messengers, either out of disbelief or to safeguard their personal interests, continued as sinning monotheists over time. And they were mostly the ones in power, so they twisted the religion of one good God to suit their own needs and justify their behavior.

Just as the legacy media decides what people see and ai algorithms decide which information to throttle, back in those days most people were uneducated so their only source of information were scribes who could write and priests who could read. So if one group of landlords decided they didnt want people eating their cows, maybe they paid off a scribe to add in a verse to venerate cows and and a few priests spread that. And thats how hinduism was born. But tis not easy to justify that logically so the next generation of priests tried to make it more synced by saying rats and snakes are holy too. And it snowballs from there.

And yes, I believe these messengers and prophets came to all areas of the world at different times but their messages were twisted, forgotten, absorbed or mutated into different teachings... Just as we see happening with the message of the Bible being so different from the teachings of the church today or the message of the Quran being ignored and drowned out by the noise of "cultural islam" which often has aspects that contravene the verses in the Quran. But people don't read scripture so if some idiots muslim tells his followers to blow himself up, we can see how the idiots get misguided.

In the middle east area, Noah came and a few people believed him but most didnt. Eventhough he reset civilization (all over the world as per Bible, only locally as per Quran), a few generations later people had again started sinning or becoming polytheists. So Abraham came. And then Isaac and Ismael and Jacob and Joseph etc. And all of them taught the same message about worshipping one God and not selling out for wealth and power or to avoid hardship.

Jacob's descendants are called Israelites in the bible and bani Israel (tribe of Israel) in the Quran, after his new name. His 4th son is Judah and some of his descendants were referred to as Yahuda. Jew is just an anglicized version of Yahuda and wasn't a word till bibles were written in English.

Irrespective, there were always sinning and misguided monotheists. And those were mostly the elites and the ones that decided that it was better to control the narrative through preachers and scribes. Mush like Israel and the US govt use pastors today to sell their wars and policy decisions.

Thats why some verses of the Bible are obviously not time compatible with the rest of the passage, entire books are missing, like the Book of the Wars of the Lord, the Book of Jasher, book of the acts of Solomon and many others that are mentioned in the Bible but missing from it. Other books not mentioned in the Bible, but referred to in ancient letters, like the book of Enoch, the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of James etc. are also missing. How did they go missing, coz the scribes removed them when copying old texts, in cahoots with the fake holy men of that era.

How did some verses get added later? Coz scribes added them. And again, it must have been done with the elite and the so called holymen.

And this is also the reason the Bible (mostly OT) has been corrupted with a few absolute garbage passages that refer to a council of dieties, god El having a wife and being a man that becomes a god etc. Because if you believe in one God who created the universe then you obviously can't belive that another God called El had a goddess wife called Asherah. And if you believe in an all powerful transcendent God then a passage about Jacob physically beating God in the form of a lion sounds ridiculous... and very much like pagan influences. And yes, many leaders and preachers secretly mocked monotheism or were atheists or satanists. Just like pastor Ted Cruz and Kennith Copeland misquoted the Bible to raise funds for Israel today.

Same way, other passages were changed to demonize the prophets and messengers. You can either believe that God has good morals and chooses good men or you can believe Noah was a drunk, Lot was having incest, Ismael was a rascal, Israel was a fraud, Solomon was a womanizer, Esau was a loser etc. If you read their stories in the Quran you see how different it is, they're shown only in a respectful light, as you would expect God to speak about his honored servants. At the most, some are slightly rebuked for things like direlection of duty, or not giving attention to the poor, or being too much under the influence of their wives.

They were good people but if a tribal chief wants to justify his own alcoholism and depravity what to do you do? You tell the people "look, lot and Noah did it too, and were favored by God".

Also, if the elite want to install X as prophet instead of Y, what do they do? They say Ismael and his children, the arabs, are all bastards. So now that entire clan is out and prophethood only goes through our family. Similarly, Esau (whom jews today consider to be the ancestor of westerners) is bad and Israel is great. Why pick David, hes lesser than us in royalty... till he succeeded and then everyone changed teams.

And its not explicit but if you read the Bible you can pick up how many of the prophets were betrayed by those very close to them and their friends. Noah's wife, Lots wife, israelites making a calf soon as moses goes up Mt. Sinai, Judas etc. Coz thats how real families and real power politics work in human societies. Charlie Kirk and PTUSA is a great example of so called religiously minded people hijacking the narrative coz they sold out, but continually pretended to be Kirks closest friends while he worked on their mission.

Now here's where your soul has to decide what kind of a monotheist God you want to believe in...

If you believe in A god that only loves the genetic superiority of one strand of DNA and hates the rest, people label you as a follower of Judaism, irrespective of whether youre a descendant of Israel (israelite) or Judah (jewish). And the terms get conflated. You're still a believer and a monotheist but your mind accepts this particular narrative. So you're jewish to the world because its much easier to say than a follower of Judaism. But in essence you're still a believer in one God.

If you're a believer and a monotheist that accepts Paul's interpretation of the new testament, that the one true god has three parts that are all equally God, and belief in Jesus as a son of God is requisite for salvation, then people label you as Christian. But in essence youre still a believer in ome God.

If you believe there is one God with no parts and no partners, and it was just one message given through multiple messengers, and the path to salvation is to have belief in one God and obey his instructions and do good deeds, then you're a muslim terrorist like me 😂

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