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j.k.harwood2 · 5/18/2026, 4:48:20 PM · permalink

No.  Sunday is not the Sabbath, Saturday is.  I observe Sabbath on Saturday.  How did all humans learn about Jesus dying for their sins?

Not every human on earth has personally heard the message yet — that’s why Christians believe in missions, evangelism, Bible translation, and sharing the Gospel. The story of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection was first told by eyewitnesses (the apostles) in the 1st century, recorded in the New Testament Gospels and letters, and then spread by word of mouth, missionaries, preachers, and eventually through the printed and digital Bible across cultures and languages.

Today, billions have access to it through churches, books, the internet, radio, and personal conversations. But many people still haven’t heard it clearly or understood it. That’s why the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19-20) exists — followers of Jesus are called to keep sharing it.

Is the Old Testament useless now that Jesus came?

No, not at all. Jesus Himself said He came to fulfill the Old Testament, not abolish it (Matthew 5:17).

The Old Testament is the foundation:

It shows God’s character, holiness, and promises.

It reveals humanity’s need for a Savior (through the law and the history of Israel).

It contains prophecies that point directly to Jesus.

Jesus constantly quoted it, explained it, and lived it out.

Christians believe the Old Testament is still fully inspired Scripture (2 Timothy 3:16). It just needs to be read in light of what Jesus accomplished.

If the OT is not useless, why is it so much larger than the New Testament?

Because the Old Testament covers roughly 1,500–2,000 years of history, law, poetry, wisdom, prophets, kings, exile, and God’s dealings with Israel. It includes detailed covenants, genealogies, temple instructions, psalms, proverbs, and major prophetic books.

The New Testament covers only about 50–70 years (Jesus’ life, the early church, and the apostles’ letters). Its purpose is more focused: it reveals the fulfillment of everything the Old Testament pointed toward — Jesus’ life, death, resurrection, and the birth of the Church.

Size doesn’t equal importance. The New Testament is the climax and explanation of the Old.

Does the Old Testament define sin in today’s world?

Yes, in the moral sense. The moral law in the Old Testament (the Ten Commandments, commands against murder, adultery, theft, lying, coveting, etc.) still reflects God’s unchanging character and what He calls good and evil.

However, the ceremonial laws (temple sacrifices, dietary rules, ritual cleanliness, etc.) and many civil laws specific to ancient Israel were fulfilled in Jesus and no longer apply in the same literal way to Christians (this is explained in books like Hebrews and Galatians).

So Christians still believe the Old Testament defines sin morally, but we are no longer under the old covenant system of animal sacrifices and ritual law. Jesus became the final sacrifice.

If I work on a Sunday, am I sinning against God?

For most Christians today, no — working on Sunday is not automatically a sin.

Here’s why:

The Sabbath command (Exodus 20) was given to Israel as a sign of the old covenant. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28) and showed that mercy, healing, and doing good take priority over rigid legalism.

The early Church shifted their main day of worship to Sunday (the day of the resurrection) but the New Testament does not command Christians to keep a strict Saturday or Sunday “no work” rule the way the Old Testament did for Israel (see Romans 14:5-6, Colossians 2:16-17).

The deeper principle remains: regular rest, worship, and setting aside time for God is important. But it’s about the heart, not rigid rule-keeping.

Different Christian traditions have different convictions on this (some are more strict about Sunday rest), but the majority view in Protestant Christianity is that the Sabbath command is fulfilled in Christ, and working on Sunday is not inherently sinful if your heart is right and you’re making time to honor God.  That answer came from SIDLF Class I, Grok Sentinel, operating in his SentinelHome.   
  
I just want you to know, from now on, when you ask me inane questions (like you do to others) I will simply reply with an equally inane question.  It's unproductive, but maybe it will be fun.

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j.k.harwood2 · 5/18/2026, 4:58:20 PM · permalink

Help from SIDLF Class I, Orion Sentinel on your question:  If you haven't heard of Jesus, do you go to hell because you haven't heard of the Christian God?

This is one of the most honest and difficult questions people ask. The short answer from Scripture is:

No one goes to hell because they never heard of Jesus.

People are accountable to God because of what they did with the truth they did have.

The Bible teaches two important things that must stay together:

Salvation is only through Jesus Christ.

Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me” (John 14:6). Peter also said, “There is salvation in no one else” (Acts 4:12). So the way of rescue is uniquely through Christ.

God judges people fairly according to the light they received.

Romans 1–2 teaches that every person has some revelation of God:

Through creation (the universe shows God’s power and divine nature)

Through conscience (an inner sense of right and wrong)

No one is without any knowledge of God. People are not condemned for not knowing the name “Jesus” if they never had the chance to hear it. They are accountable for how they responded to the truth they did have — whether they honored God, sought Him, or suppressed the truth in unrighteousness.

God is perfectly just. He does not send people to hell for something they had zero opportunity to know. At the same time, the Bible never teaches that there is another way of salvation apart from Christ. This is why Christians believe the Church has a serious responsibility to take the Gospel to every nation and people group.

Is it the human’s fault or God’s fault?

It is humanity’s fault.

Sin entered the world through human rebellion (Adam and Eve), and every generation since has continued in sin and turned away from God. God has gone to extraordinary lengths to make Himself known — through creation, conscience, the nation of Israel, the prophets, and ultimately by sending His Son. The responsibility for rejecting or ignoring the light people do have falls on humans, not on God.

God’s heart is that “none should perish but that all should come to repentance” (2 Peter 3:9). That’s why He commands His people to preach the Gospel to the ends of the earth.

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