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Parent Post: winning hearts and minds
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sonatime
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5/2/2025, 1:22:33 PM
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The Bible doesn't allow for anything like Talmud or another revelation like Quran etc. I never understood why Quran claims to be "an Abrahamic" religion and there is nothing biblical in the Talmud. And then one has to make sense of all the Christian denominations. “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Therefore by their fruits you will know them. 21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
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5/3/2025, 1:09:57 AM
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These verses if accurate contradict themselves. 1\. If a Bad tree can't produce good fruit and you are insinuating that Islam is a bad tree, then all muslims are bad and there isn't one righteous muslim. With 2 billion people and some of the most prosperous places on earth being muslim, this just wouldn't make sense. There societies wouldn't have lasted 1400 years. 2\. If a good tree can't produce bad fruit than all christians would be good and verses 22 and 23 make no sense because christians are the only ones who cast out demons in the name of jesus. We also know what the catholic church has had a bad reputation for.
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sonatime
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5/3/2025, 9:42:31 AM
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Sorry for the confusion, my quotes didn't really have anything to do with Islam there but the scripture carries critical and helpful thought. It was more directed at sacredcow as we have many disagreements on these topics. I believe that statement would mostly apply to Christian denominations and to be careful not disqualify themselves. Maybe there is a lesson there for all.
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