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wfgopack · 4/3/2026, 3:39:41 PM · permalink

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alienpickle · 4/4/2026, 1:46:11 PM · permalink

yeah, flat earth joke.  Btw, the shit is round and we did go to the moon.  Grandma wrote a LOT of editorial rants in the local newspaper, from an old typewriter on her kitchen table.  Like, a LOT.  To the point where the state politicians knew her by name, and would occasionally drop in for coffee if they were nearby.  It was a different era.  So I remember being like 6 or 7 and sitting at that kitchen table with John Glenn, also a local farm-boy from the area before Air Force and NASA.  I was not in any way a "normal" 7yr old, so we had a pretty deep conversation about the lunar surface composition, formation of regolith, the amount of odd glass bead content (electric universe is on-to something, imo) and whatever I could think to ask.  We'd been at the Smithsonian in DC the summer before, and I got to see all their stuff, and I collected a set of the cardboard mini-models of the various rockets, so for 7 I kinda knew my shit more than he anticipated.  In replaying that conversation - what I can remember of it, but it was 50 years ago - the thing that sticks out is that he felt completely genuine, talked about how they were so busy they didn't think about being scared, until they got to the "long ride out" when they just had to wait and it had time to sink in how seriously scary what they were doing was, so he had to find things to do to keep from thinking about it.  
  
Now, there's a lot of fake footage mixed in with the real footage.  The people saying "We never went, look at this fakery" are cherry picking the "backup footage".  That's where the Kubrick story comes in.  If they did all this and the footage was fucked up, they wanted a backup.  So they made some footage in Canada.  Well, the stuff they shot up there came back ok, but the fake was so good why not use it and double your PR material?  We paid for it, right?  They didn't anticipate the future where we'd have digital photo analysis by AI.    
  
The thing that really bothers me is the statements like "we LOST the technology".  Bullshit.  Why is Artemis II taking such a wildly different orbit than our 60-70's flights?  I suspect part of that is because they want to establish a "Lunar Cycler" station that is in a constant orbit to the moon and back, like a ferry we just jump on as it's flying past.  That might explain the orbit, idk, I need to actually look at the thing instead of just basing speculation off headlines.

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wfgopack · 4/4/2026, 7:19:51 PM · permalink

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alienpickle · 4/4/2026, 8:05:36 PM · permalink

If I'd met him a year later I could have asked him about the ufo and greys in my back yard.    
I met Trevor Sorenson some years ago, who was director of the Clementine lunar mapping mission.  Talked to him for about 3-4 hours.  He's a game developer in his spare time.  I don't think they're lying, they're just not able to tell the whole truth.  Clementine even discovered water on the moon, but they weren't allowed to discuss it.  That only recently got discussed in public.   
I'm still not sure how we solve the radiation belt issue if we send people up though.  There's a bigger issue than that about long-term stays on other bodies though - humans are dependent on the planet's EM field, according to the greys.  We can't artificially generate one, or haven't tried hard enough to make it portable, and apparently we deteriorate mentally and physically when separated from it.  Low orbit isn't a problem because we're still in it, but if you go far enough to be out of it you won't be doing to well in weeks/months.  I've had three "visits" with those guys over 50 years.  I thought the first time was just some dream I was remembering until the next one in 1996.  That confirmed it was real and was a bit of a reality-crisis for a decade until I got ok with it.  They said they'd come back again, but after 25 years I was thinking that was bullshit... then, 2022, round 3.  At this point it doesn't even freak me out, it's just "Oh, hi again".  Not the normal Art Bell story type of encounter, it's totally non-medical, a conversation.  They answer questions a lot more truthfully than NASA, lol.  Anyway, I asked where "they" are from.  UFO people won't like the answer much, nor will the religious, because it doesn't suit either narrative.  Imagine what our tech will be like in 13,000 years if we manage to not get wiped out by ourselves or some cosmic event.  That's about how much lead time they've got on us.  The big pyramids were meant to survive what happens, sort of a warning.  It's cyclical.

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wfgopack · 4/4/2026, 8:11:07 PM · permalink

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