Comment on Is Israel really the main threat for western civilization? by breauna

Parent Post: Is Israel really the main threat for western civilization?

breauna · 2/21/2025, 9:28:03 AM · permalink

I really don't know and I'm not going to pretend to know.  The best I can do is throw out some possibilities/theories.  The more I learn the more I realize how ignorant I am (and how the majority of people are even more ignorant on the most basic topics).  
I am 47 years old and up until a couple of years ago I never understood the "antisemitism" thing.  I thought "why would people hate a whole group of people just because of their heritage and/or religion"?  I now realize that even the term "antisemitism" is a misnomer and that countries and people throughout history have actually had some very good reasons for not liking them.  Of course I don't condone genocide as an optional solution, but I do condone critical thinking and awareness of patterns and of the big picture so that we can no longer be gaslit and manipulated.  Unfortunately even if a critical mass became aware of this long running Zionist agenda, they have amassed so much wealth, influence, and power that I think it might be too late.  
I wish that I could summarize what I think could be going on but there is just too many tangents and so much back story.  I will recommend to anyone to read the full document of The Protocols of the Learned Elders Of Zion on archive.org written in 1897.  Wikipedia will tell you that this document is a hoax but even one of the co-founders of Wikipedia said that he no longer trusts the information on there because it has become corrupted by political and money interests, so read the document yourself and make up your own mind.  
There are plenty of passages in old Jewish religious texts (like the Talmud and Zohar) that make it very clear what they were teaching Jews to believe.  It says many times that non-Jews or "Goyim" are cattle and their only purpose is to serve the Jews.  It gives Jews permission to lie to them, cheat them, steal from them, and even rape them (including children).  They teach since they are the "children of God" that they have every right to exploit this earth and every being on it for their advantage.  Rothchilds are a Jewish family and own banks in over 90% of countries in the world... and when leaders of countries did not want their banks or to take part in their system, the leaders were assassinated with some other narrative given to it.  And did you know that Jews can get loans with 0% interest?  Jewish owned banks will give out interest free loans to other Jews because it is only okay to commit usury on us Goyim.  The Jews as a people have been kicked out of over 100 countries throughout history for similar reasons each time.  Their Talmud also speaks very negatively of Jesus Christ, saying that he is in hell boiling in excrement.  
I of course do not believe that all Jews believe this or support this.  I have heard many speak out against Zionism and the state of Israel.  I feel badly even for the Jews who do believe these things because they were indoctrinated into these beliefs since they were young and seemingly possibly trained into being sociopaths (feelings of superiority and no empathy).  It seems that there is a group, a cabal if you will, that has been steering world events for a very long time.... at least since the late 1700s but some people suspect that it started many hundreds of years ago.   
The state of Israel as it exists today was part of the plan and it seems as if they are trying to create the "Apocalypse" as described in Revelation.  The controllers believe in the spirit world.  I wish I knew exactly what they believe but I know they believe in something.  I could throw out some ideas but they would all be total speculation.  Most of the people currently living in Israel aren't even related to the original 12 tribes of Israel, which is why they discourage DNA testing there.  They are still taught that they are special and that they are "God's chosen people" and many of them if asked on the streets of Israel will say without a hint of remorse that all the Palestinians should be shot like dogs.    
In the book of Revelation it says that all the nations rise up against Israel... and so if that happens, if they want to make it happen... then they wouldn't care if it was mostly fake and just a twisted version of an MK Ultra project anyway.  Zelensky (who is Jewish) even said that he wanted Ukraine to be the new Israel and I have seen videos of Orthodox Jews getting out of buses and taxis in Ukraine.  Apparently they are moving some of them there.    
I don't know exactly what the end game is, I don't know what is a genuine desire or ritual for them and what is just a performance for us... but I know that this goes deep and that there are multiple layers to it.  Israel has so much control and influence because it was a project of and backed by the Rothchilds and they might as well own the world.  There is even a photo of King Charles being poked in the chest by a Rothschild.  Even those who sit on thrones bow to that family.   
I could go on and on but I have already made this reply so long that I'm sure no one will read it lol.  I am very long-winded.  If you made it this far, thanks for humoring me.

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paschn · 4/21/2025, 4:08:47 AM · permalink

No problem! Sometimes we all have to be "long winded", to make our feelings/beliefs known. First off, I'd like to clarify who conspired to frame, torture and murder Christ - Then, I'd like to show the enormous amount of power the real Jews, (at the time, they were in fact of the line of Abraham and were actually Semitic), wielded over the #1 world power at the time. Can you imagine that tiny minority being able to THREATEN a SEATED Roman Governor into handing over a man he felt was GUILTLESS, to them, to be tortured/murdered? Yet, they whimper and whine throughout millennia about how "picked on" they are! Now realize, the faux Jews of today are neither Abrahamic nor Semitic, thus, I try to seperate the 2 by calling them "Small Hats". At best, they are nothing more than Proselytes originating from a well hidden empire called Khazaria, (they were actually a Shamanistic people who searched for "signs" in rocks, blood, bones etc.). Here are the 2 primary verses;  
(John 8: 44) “ You are From your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a murderer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of the lie.”

(Mathew 27: 24-26)

Seeing that it did no good but, rather, an uproar was arising Pilate took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying: “I am innocent of the blood of this man. You yourselves must see to it” At that all the people said in answer: “Let his blood come upon us and our children.” Then he released Bar ab'bas to them, but he had Jesus whipped and handed him over to be executed on the stake. \*\*Now, understand that Revelation is the book of prophesy, i.e. things to come, either very recently fulfilled or fulfilled in the near future.  
(Rev 2: 9)

‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who call themselves Jews and really are not, but they are a synagogue of Satan.

(Rev 3: 9)

Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews yet are not, but are lying, look! I will make them come and bow before your feet and make them know that I have loved you.  
As a Christian, I hate no one. That being said, I do hate the evil they perpetrate. The Small Hats, although they are NOT "Jews", have embraced the DOGMA of the real Jews' ( Torah She-'be'alpeh = TALMUD (Oral Traditions of Men), their encyclopedia identified it as their PRIMARY book of law in 2006..) - Torah She'bich'tav = (Written old testament).

Nice of them to give both the “TORAH” handle to throw we Goy off even further. Now, the information I set here, while intense, is NOT done to lessen the culpability of Satan the Devil. This is HIS "system of things". But these "Small Hats", having firmly accepted the "Oral Traditions of Men" our Christ tried one final time to get the real Jews to leave behind before they had him murdered. Along with their non-Small Hat cohorts, have funneled more perversion, evil, greed and hatred directly to mankind, than any other "clan" now, or since they murdered Christ.

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breauna · 4/23/2025, 11:02:15 AM · permalink

Wow, I can already tell that I would love chatting with you about all kinds of things.  That's a reminder why a platform like this is good because other than my boyfriend, I don't know anyone personally who is into this kind of stuff.  
I have heard about the Khazarians, a man named Chuck Swindoll made a 2 part video on YouTube called Khazarian Mafia: The God Eaters.  It was really good and very interesting.  I did a little more digging after that and apparently several people have written about if for quite some time, although I did find articles debunking it (and trying to claim that the tiny hats love this narrative because it again shifts blame).  I read and listen to videos about all sorts of topics but unfortunately I only retain about 10% of what I learn and I don't seem to be able to choose which 10% lol.  From what I recall, the Khazarians (spelling?) became what we know today as the Ashkanazi (spelling?) Jews and the "real Jews" are the Sephardic Jews.  I don't know how true any of this is but I believe anything is possible at this point.  
  
I have also heard about Sabbati Zevi and his followers the Sabbateans and how that eventually morphed into or influenced a sect called The Frankists after their leader, Jacob Frank.  That's another crazy rabbit hole and I'm unsure if that is all related to Khazarians or not but those groups were also Jews who believed in salvation through sin or that their messiah wouldn't come until everyone was good or everyone was bad and figured that it would be easier to manifest him through sin.  It almost seems like the globalists of today are trying to manifest something through sin... that's for sure.  
I have heard and read select passages from the Talmud and I am shocked that what they include in one of their "holy books" isn't more well known by the Gentiles, especially the Christians.  There is some seriously delusional and deranged stuff in there.  I have seen videos of Rabbis spitting on the ground when someone mentions Jesus and videos of Orthodox Jews flat out saying that we Gentiles have the same souls as animals but they are God's chosen people and have divine souls.   
From what I have learned, there was a split in the Jewish population in the 1920s and 30s  because Zionists wanted a Jewish state but Orthodox Jews says that is against the religion, that they were not supposed to have a homeland until the Messiah appeared.  The Zionists ended up working with the Nazis in WW2 because they knew that Hitler and the narrative of this Jewish persecution would be so great that Jews from all over Europe would be willing to move to this "homeland" in the desert surrounded by Arab nations.  Supposedly, the Z-I at the end of Nazi stands for Zionism.  It seems that at least on the surface, many Zionists aren't even religious.  I wonder sometimes if they are truly secular or if their "religion" is just something else entirely.  The whole thing is so strange and I don't pretend to know what's going on.  All that I know for sure is that we have been lied to by schools and media for our entire lives so pretty much everything we think we know has to be reexamined.  
When it comes to Revelation, I find that part of the Bible so fascinating... it's like a riddle.  I have heard multiple different ideas and interpretations and have even been listing to Christian channels lately who believe that the first part of Revelation already happened, that Jesus returned in 70AD (or CE) and reigned with the Saints for 1000 years, that there was a "Tartaria" and that was the millennial kingdom, that our calendar and timeline have been altered and that "the dark ages" was actually an age of light.  The claim is that we are in "the little season" where Satan deceives all nations and that we are being deceived about pretty much everything... including where we are in the Biblical timeline.  Jason Jack does a good job of explaining that eschatology.  I don't know what I think but he makes some good arguments and again, I think anything is possible.  If that is the case, it would appear that Globalists like the Rothschilds want to set up the world stage to appear as if we are coming up on the first tribulation.  I  thought maybe they were trying to trigger the Apocalypse but it could be possible they are trying to recreate it or to deceive the Christians?  
I don't have any serious stake in believing any one particular dogma or other.  While I would consider myself a Christian as in a follower and believer in Christ, I would be closer to a Gnostic Christian because I don't believe the God of the OT is the same God that Jesus spoke of.  To me, those Gods seems worlds apart.  Objectively it seems to me that the OT God is kind of a psychopath.  He certainly isn't the all loving and forgiving God that Jesus preached about.  I also believe that there is reincarnation and other things that don't jive with today's mainstream Christianity.   I'm not married to my beliefs though, other than I want to be on the side of goodness and truth as much as I possibly can.  
I feel badly for the children born to these psychopathic narcissists because what are their chances of being anything different?  Many of these people are taught from a young age that they are special and superior and that it is perfectly fine to treat Goyim like crap (and that Gentiles are meant to be their slaves).  I think Yahweh is a small "g" god and not a very nice one and that he is the God of the Jews (and they even kept disappointing him no matter how many times he made them suffer for their transgressions) and somehow the Jews convinced the Christians that their God is THE God and the same one Jesus spoke of (Jesus never called him Yahweh weirdly).  So they might actually be "God's chosen people" but my question is: which God and what are they "chosen" for?    
Have you ever read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?  It's very long but worth a read (I had to read it over several days).  I found it on archive .org   According to Wikipedia it is a hoax, fraud, etc.. but I think people should read it and make up their own mind (and we all know that Wikipedia is basically an arm of the CIA at this point).  It sounds super legit to me, I think it was at least written in the time in history that it claims because no one in the last couple of decades could be that methodical about writing in that particular fashion.  It was written in the early 20th century and lays out the plans for the world and how they will eventually be able to create the NWO and control the entire globe.  The details are chilling.  
Anyway... this is getting way too long.  I hope you had a free afternoon if you actually read this whole thing hehe.  I don't read fiction anymore and since 2020 I watch fiction shows/movies maybe a quarter as often as I used to because it is so obvious now that truth is stranger than fiction and we are living in the most f'd up movie of all time.  It's just so monotonous and distracting that most people can't even see it.

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paschn · 4/24/2025, 4:14:49 AM · permalink

"From what I have learned, there was a split in the Jewish population in the 1920s and 30s because Zionists wanted a Jewish state but Orthodox Jews says that is against the religion, that they were not supposed to have a homeland until the Messiah appeared." Correct! They actually brawled in the streets, they were so polarized by it.    
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"Have you ever read The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion? It's very long but worth a read (I had to read it over several days). I found it on archive .org"  
  
Yes! I too have read portions of it. Frightening as well as perverse. I had a good chuckle when I read that they called it a "forgery". Notice they didn't call it "lies"? A fogery is nothing more (or less) than an unauthorized COPY of the original. It's believed those "protocols" came from a wake for a Rabbi Reichhorn, (sic?), who stated that they had dragged Christians into countless wars against each other and as of 1869, the body count was 100 millions, in closing, he stated that the end is not yet... Cryptic, eh? Khazarian looks correct, I believe, (check me), Ashkenazi is the proper spelling. Since this (LOL) "free" nation outright bans or abridges any truths written about our owners,  Carefully look for an UNABRIDGED copy of Arthur Koestler's, . I'm nearing 80, and I have some college - that being said, I was NEVER told of a empire, (and it was large enough to be called that), known as KHAZARIA - (located between the Caspian/Black seas. The Talmudic Jews loved to trade. They or theiremployees traveled extensively and eventuall landed in Khazaria, (they were originally a Shamanistic culture, (you know, looking in flames, spittle, blood or whatever, for "signs". Koestler said their mass "turtle-necking", (Circumcision), was more a political move as they were bordered by Christians to the West and Muslims to the East.  If you like, go to David Irving's publishing house. He's been called the most accurate historian ever, the Small Hats, (owning the judiciary, ruined him over his revealing books. I bought quite a few, but when my sweetheart of 50 years passed away, I pretty much lost it, and can't recall what I did with many of them. Also, Henry Ford wrote a telling book, , Back to Irving, I loved his book on the phony Nuremburg "trials". I'll look for the name of his publishing company - Perhaps I can locate it. Being a "dinosaur", for some reason, I can't "copy/paste" any link to this. I'm sure it's something simple I'm not aware of.  
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breauna · 4/24/2025, 10:28:43 AM · permalink

I first want to say that I am so sad about hearing about your loss, I can't even begin to imagine.  It just breaks my heart because my boyfriend and I often talk about how we can't imagine living without each other and we have only been together for 7 years.  That attachment will only grow if we are lucky, but it also comes with that inevitable downside.  Wow... 50 years.  That kind of relationship is rare these days.  My parents have been together now for 51 years and I dread the day that one of them passes on, I truly don't know what the other is going to do.   
So which book were you referring to by Arthur Koestler?  I find it interesting to say the least that Zelensky said that he wanted to turn Ukraine into "the new Israel".  Jews have already started moving there as thousands of Christians die.  Didn't Khazaria used to be in that area?  Hmmm   Well, for the NWO they want only one religion and I don't think it's Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.  It's strange how religion is back to the forefront and the Jews are using Islam as a "broom" to clean out Western nations and Christianity (I actually heard a Rabbi say that Islam is the broom of Europe).  Ultimately they don't want Islam either so I'm curious about what their plan is after Islam has proliferated in all of these Western nations.  It's so messed up that several Jewish NGOs were funding and facilitating the mass migration over the last 4 years and yet Israel wants to keep itself "pure" and won't allow any non Jew to become a citizen.  Rules for thee but not for me... I have heard that the Israeli government discourages its citizens from taking DNA tests, have you heard of such a thing?  People speculate that it could be because many would find out that they do not have true Jewish ancestry.  I've heard the term "the lost tribes of Israel" so I'm assuming that means that no one really knows where the actual 12 tribes of Israel from the Bible are located now (and that it's probably not in Israel).  I have also heard that there is a large amount of inbreeding in Arabic countries and that it's proven that inbreeding causes not only a lower IQ but also a short temper.  I wonder what the rate of inbreeding is in Israel.  It is such a small country that it seems like eventually that would become a problem if it hasn't already.    
I don't know exactly what they're up to.  I have focused quite a bit on the esoteric/spiritual implications of all of this because it seems more grand and complex than just "greed".  I suppose that it could be just a matter of psychopathy and the average human can't grasp what that entails so it seems as if they must be another species.  But there definitely were Mystery Schools and there definitely are secret societies and according to Rudolf Steiner back in the 1920s these secret groups were definitely trying to influence and change the course of the entire world and humankind.  He said straight up that some of them wanted to push us deeper and faster into materialism and that eventually they would be able to give children a vaccine that would disconnect them completely from the spiritual world and they would never again have the desire to know anything outside of this material world.  Crazy stuff but a lot of things he talked about from 1900 to 1925 are playing out now just as he said.  If someone asked me who I would want to have dinner with (alive or dead) I would pick Jesus first and Rudolf Steiner second (as long as they could speak English or I could speak their language).  
Well, I hope I am like you when I'm nearing 80.  You're still curious about the world , keeping up with the technology as much as you need to, very clear minded and  a good writer.  I don't really like where I see the world heading at the moment so I sort of envy the boomer generation.  I'm 47 so I'm just old enough to remember a world without computers but young enough to be very concerned about the future.  I have become a lot better about enjoying the present but logically I know that life is certainly going to test me a lot more and I'm so used to being comfortable that I hope that I can pass those tests.

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breauna · 4/25/2025, 2:37:45 AM · permalink

I want to know what the point of all of this is, I can't help but think that if this is "God's plan" then his plan sucks.  And why would he put Satan in the bottomless pit for 1,000 years and then let him loose again?  I'm not saying that I don't believe there's a God, I do.  I believe that Jesus was divine, or at least that the divine Christ entered the person of Yeshua.  I just still can't wrap my head around the fact that an omnipotent God who embodies love and truth would or even could create evil (and he would have had to create evil if he created Satan and all things) and why the suffering of billions of sentient creatures would be part of his plan.    
I have listened to a few videos from a YouTube channel called Israeli News Live where he talks about the Noahide Laws.  He is a Jew who converted to Christianity and he is very concerned about the implementation of the Noahide laws not only in the US but internationally.  Supposedly while Obama was president our government ordered hundreds of guillotines and they are being stored in two different states currently and the fear is that it has something to do with the punishment called for in the Laws that idol worship (which includes worship of Jesus Christ) will be death by beheading.  If they did truly order guillotines then that alone would be weird and frightening.  We take for granted that we have moved past persecution based on religion in our modern western society, so it would be difficult for people to even comprehend the idea of something so archaic and brutal.  How bad could things get if this was a practice that resurfaced?  
I wasn't sure about Trump this entire time, meaning that I wasn't sure if he was truly a dissident or if he has been an actor in their grand play the entire time.  I saw where things were headed with the Biden regime and it was very dark so I hoped that Trump would at least undo many of the terrible policies that had run rampant in the last 4 years but on day 1 of his term he stood next to billionaire technocrats and smiled while they stated that they're going to put a 500 billion AI surveillance infrastructure in place and move ahead with MRNA "vaccines" for cancer.  I knew right then that he was not what MAGA hoped that he would be.  Since then it's been very clear that he is surrounded by Zionists and does the bidding of his Jewish donors.  I wonder what happens when these politicians take that trip to Israel.  I feel like there must be some MK Ultra brain washing or something that goes on there and after they kiss that wall they come back as pro Israel automatons.  It is quite scary, actually.

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paschn · 4/25/2025, 7:46:54 PM · permalink

On one hand, you're right, it's extremely scary – On the other? It's clearly showing bible prophesy being carried out. One must take into account the beginnings of the Small Hats' infiltration of Western nations, their governments and through that, the Christian/Muslim populations. After all, the one clan responsible for causing the huge exodus to the “new world”, was the take over of the Brits in 1694, (private Bank of England). As the exodus progressed, the Small Hats had already begun seeping into said “New World”. Even before it WAS a new nation, Small Hat money/power/evil was established to such a degree, they were able to set up a situation where they were able to use some of our “founding fathers” to quietly surrender our currency to their demonic evil. The father of Zionism, T. Herzl, revealed their ownership of Freemasonry in the 18 hundreds. Their power is so complete, they are continually “cleansing” history to cover their covert actions.

As for the spiritual aspects? Remember the initial betrayal of our Creator was carried out even before mankind had spread beyond the Garden of Eden, with Satan using the guise of a serpent to fool Eve into violating the one, single limitation on them re; the Tree of Knowledge of good and bad.

Satan, being a perfect spirit creature intentionally chose to ruin the relationship between God and man. Therefore, he, (Satan) is labeled as the “father of the lie”, (John 8: 44). In many verses within scripture this “system of things” is identified as his. From the point of Adam/Eve sharing the fruit, the primary issue is our Creator's right to rule over mankind. Since he created us with free will, we retain the right to decide for ourselves whom we will worship. His reasoning in allowing this to continue, is explained in this short video. But, remember, He is able to “correct” all suffering Satan and his minions are exposing, not only mankind, but this planet as well. But, being a just/fair/loving God, he is making certain that the right to rule over mankind issue is COMPLETELY and CLEARLY exposed;

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/Good-News-From-God-Video-Series/video-why-suffering/

Over the years, I've looked into many different religions, even reading some of the Qur'an. The one religion which consistently tries to follow Biblical verse is Jehovah's Witnesses.

Many people are incensed by including religion in this Small Hats' Talmudic beliefs and religion, but there's no way to NOT include it, seeing as the Small Hats' “religious” dogma is literally at the core of all this;\*\* Torah She-'be'alpeh = TALMUD (Oral Traditions of Men), their encyclopedia identified it as their PRIMARY book of law in 2006..

Torah She'bich'tav = (Written old testament)

Nice of them to give both the “TORAH” handle to throw we Goy off even further. The “Torah” they boast about following is their Talmud – Codified by their own Encyclopedia in 2006.

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