Comment on If America didn't have 11 Aircraft Carriers. by hyokkim

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''Elaborate on "self-depreciating".  
  
Telling the truth based on facts, even if it portrays the person telling the truth in a negative light.

''White guilt is a powerful drug...''  
  
Yes, it's not just whites engaged in colonialism, but every other races have done the same!

''The ANC is a communist organization and they have changed words to make people feel some sort of way.''  
  
They are not even sincere in their communism; they are hypocrites.

''I think colonization was a good thing.''  
  
Sometime it was; sometimes it wasn't, but white colonialism was no worse than colonialism by non-whites, often better.  
  
''Roads, schools, bridges, rail and hospitals are good.''  
  
''Upon gaining control of the area, the Germans outfitted the impoverished fishing village of Qingdao with wide streets, solid housing areas, government buildings, electrification throughout, a sewer system and a safe drinking water supply, a rarity in large parts of Asia at that time and later.''  
  
''The area had the highest school density and the highest per capita student enrollment in all of China, with primary, secondary and vocational schools funded by the Imperial German treasury and Protestant and Roman Catholic missions.\[26\] Commercial interests established the Germania Brewery in 1903, which later became the world-famous Tsingtao Brewery.\[27\] German cultural and commercial influences extended to other areas of Shandong Province, including the establishment of diverse commercial enterprises.''  
  
''In 1910, the Germans drew up for the second time the city planning of Tsingtao (Warner 2001, p. 33). The former urban area was extended four times highlighted by the emphasis on the development of commerce and trade. Sun Yat-sen (1866–1925), leader of the Chinese Revolution of 1911 and subsequently first president of the Republic of China, visited the Tsingtao area and stated in 1912, "I am impressed. The city is a true model for China's future"  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingdao#German_and_Japanese_occupations  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qingdao#1898%E2%80%931914  
  
''Yeah some savages fought against it and died.''  
  
It wasn't just whites who had done it; Han Chinese had done that to Manchus as well.  Khitans had done that Jurchens.   Koreans had done that to Jurchens as well.  
  
  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Grievances  
  
https://medievalreporter.com/downfall-kithan-liao/  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_war  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean%E2%80%93Jurchen_border_conflicts#Joseon_period

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hyokkim · 5/21/2025, 4:43:30 AM · permalink

''The Asians have one thing in common.

They don't like each other.''  
  
That's kind of true; Vietnamese and Han Chinese.  Even in U.S. they have an intense rivalry.   Despite the stereotype, it's not that bad between Han Chinese and Japanese, between Koreans, and Japanese.    Again, despite the stereotype, Koreans and Japanese were at one time, very close allies.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baekgang  
  
Despite the stereotype of close relationship between PRC, and DPRK, they are not really that close.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_faction_incident  
  
Jang was executed because KJU felt that PRC/Xi could replace KJU with Jang, who had been very Pro-CCP/Xi.     
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jang_Song-thaek  
  
Remember 'Breaking Bad' when Walt tells Jesse to kill Gale?  
  
Gus couldn't afford to kill Walt when Gale was dead.  
  
The same deal.  
  
https://www.ign.com/wikis/breaking-bad/Gale_Boetticher  
  
https://www.npr.org/2024/06/20/nx-s1-5011604/leaders-of-russia-and-north-korea-sign-pact-indicating-a-deeper-cooperation  
  
This is designed to counter PRC/Xi from annexing NK if DPRK implodes on its own, or under PRC/Xi provocation, by having Putin ready to back KJU up against PRC/Xi.    PRC/Xi's ultimate goal is annexation of both DPRK, and ROK.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goguryeo_controversies  
  
Strangely, but not unexpectedly, ROC/Taiwan supports PRC/Xi on this issue!  
  
Both DPRK and ROK oppose PRC/Xi!    Russia supports both DPRK and ROK on this one!  
  
Japan is quiet, neutral.  
  
Both DPRK and ROK distrusts ROC/Taiwan.  
  
Here's why:  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_National_Glory  
  
That's ROC/Taiwan/KMT's ambition regarding China, post-PRC.  
  
Then there's the remnant of Manchukuo restoration movement, active in Japan, but ROC/Taiwan might support it if they felt they need additional legitimacy/support from Japan, if the PRC remnant oppose ROC/Taiwan from taking over former PRC.  
  
https://en.namu.wiki/w/%EB%A7%8C%EC%A3%BC%EA%B5%AD#s-11.1  
  
Of course, the Manchus are being opportunistic as well, if they felt ROK would give them the best chance of regaining their power?     Their leader even visited Seoul.

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hyokkim · 5/21/2025, 6:14:18 PM · permalink

''China invades it neighbors and provokes with its "navy of civilian fishermen".  
  
...and anti-Americans go out of their way to ignore it; ROK doesn't.

''North Korea fucks with everyone.''  
  
KJU is kinda like Trump; ''Any publicity, so long as publicity''   That's their way of gaining leverage, that they are there, to be ready to rumble.  So don't ignore them; they are relevant.

''Japan wants islands back from Russia.''  
  
It wasn't their land to begin with.  Even Hokkaido wasn't their land; they took it from the natives by force, kinda like Americans!

''Russia and China don't agree on who owns what land.''  
  
It's more than that; Russia is fully aware of the aggressive intention by Chinese regarding the Russian Far East.   Their greatest fear is China forming an alliance with Japan on this.   They know that it's unlikely with PRC, but with ROC/Taiwan/KMT?    Japanese militarists were not a single monolithic block; some of the Japanese militarists were very Pro-ROC/KMT before and during the Sino-Japanese war.  Some of the IJA actually fought for ROC/KMT against PLA after the Sino-Japanese war, and some other IJA had fought on the side of PLA against ROC/KMT not just after the Sino-Japanese war, but also during the Chinese Civil War before the end of the Sino-Japanese war!   Your assumption regarding this is very naive.   As many as 1,000 IJA officers had got fraked by their own men during the Sino-Japanese war!   Japan during WW2 was not a totalitarian dictatorship, but a military anarchy.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek#Education_in_Japan  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanji_Ishiwara#Return_to_Manchukuo_and_disgrace  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuji_Okamura#Post-war_life  
  
Why Russia/Putin was/is interested in helping ROK to become strong: He, too, wants an ally against the looming threat of Sino-Japanese alliance against the Russian Far East.   Why ROK also wants an alliance with Russia/Putin: U.S. is not going to be staying in Asia forever, especially considering how they have been going downhill since 90s.  ROK, and DPRK as well want an ally, against the looming threat of Sino-Japanese alliance to come post-PRC.  
  
Why ROK is helping Philippine to become strong, another ally against China, any China, not just PRC, but post-PRC United China, which could be ROC/Taiwan.   Why ROK wants to help Vietnam, India to become strong as well.   Now, you know why ROK does not trust ROC/Taiwan.  
  
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2023/09/a-korean-expansion-the-future-of-the-philippine-fleet/  
  
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/one-raptor-down-us-f-22-loses-air-battle-to-new-dog-fa-50/#google_vignette  
  
ROK will replace U.S. after U.S. leaves Philippine.  
  
Stealth fighters are over-rated.   Non-Stealth fighters have a significant advantage over the stealth fighters in close range, visual dogfight, due to internal bay of the stealth fighter making it less maneuverable than the external bay of the non-stealth fighters.  
  
It's due to less concentrated weight in the COG of the stealth fighters, due to the hollowness of the internal weapons bay; I found this out by watching the interviews of ROKAF pilots who had flown both FA-50, and KF-21 version 1, and F-35, in an interview with one of the ROK military channels.   You might wonder why ROKAF would allow such an interview.  Because of that KIDA, spreading garbage, ROKAF had to defend their position why KF-21 version had to be no internal weapons bay.   They also had to point out the vaunted F-35 stealth capability was not all that, non-stealth after heating the mach, due to the soft stealth panel, which has to be replaced every time after hitting mach.   KF-21 will not have such issues.   U.S. not allowing ROKAF access to F-35 ROK bought and paid for, on demand, in real time!   No such bs with KF-21.   Of course, me understanding Korean gives me such access to information very few people in U.S. have, certainly not in general public.  
  
Yes, I know far more than you, and other MIC fanboys.  
  
''I don't see how Asia will become united.

India, Pakistan and China are at a soft war now.''  
  
U.S. will leave by 2050; PRC would implode as well.   Time for crisis and opportunity, especially for ROK.    Do you think U.S. would support ROK, against Post-PRC united China, and Japan?

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