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3/23/2025, 11:23:32 AM
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wendy87
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3/24/2025, 6:57:49 AM
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Just a random suggestion, but why not allow people to delete the account, allow the commentary to remain and in brackets next to their name advise 'user account deleted'. A very rudimentary thought, but I very new to posting things online. Personally, I do not engage with trolls and I do not say things on here that I would not say in real life, I believe in learning and open discourse but am adult enough to know when not to engage. Viva Frei has this saying 'the internet is forever'.
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logical
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3/24/2025, 7:13:02 AM
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There is also the issue of bots Making tens of thousands of accounts and then "deleting themselves" and ruining all the good usernames.
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wendy87
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3/24/2025, 7:26:23 AM
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True. Did not think about that aspect. I suppose there are many variables and not everything will suit everyone.
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logical
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3/24/2025, 7:29:33 AM
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Yeah too many variables some could say.
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kelspeth
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2/21/2026, 4:21:19 AM
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welcome to life nigga
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logical
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2/21/2026, 4:23:30 AM
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what a weird comment to make on a year old post but ok
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kelspeth
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2/21/2026, 7:05:18 AM
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what a weird response to make to a comment that's telling the truth
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simms
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3/28/2025, 2:10:37 AM
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It’s your chance to learn accountability and practice foresight
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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2/3/2026, 2:10:41 AM
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I'll give this discussion a read.
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matt
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3/23/2025, 1:35:05 PM
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Can’t delete posts. And all you did was sign up with an email. what’s the difference between deleting an account and just not posting again?
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witness
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3/23/2025, 7:55:16 PM
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Affiliation with the platform. There's a number of reasons users may wish to discontinue their association with the platform. Particuarly people that are using doxxable handles here. You don't want to delete posts. I get the aspiration for that. I don't really think your rationale makes sense for that either if I'm honest... You can't unsay things you say in real life? Maybe not. But equally things you said in real life aren't still stuck to your forehead for the rest of your life either. Apparently you want the platform to live or die on the principle that you can't "unsay" things, that's fine, I disagree, but I get it. But I don't get what that has to do with not allowing users to delete their account? Is there a technical limitation or this decision is by design, once you make an account it's now property of soj.ooo whether you (the account holder) want to be part of the platform or not? I really don't like where that mentality goes if that is by design.
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matt
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3/23/2025, 9:23:42 PM
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I understand your concern, however there’s a huge misconception that deleting an account somehow makes all your content and words disappear. *It doesn’t.* Platforms like Reddit make that illusion possible by building in mass deletion and censorship levers. That might seem convenient—until those same levers are used to memory-hole truth. **If you believe in free speech, why would you want us to build in the tools that allow for censorship?** The only real way to prevent **future manipulation** is to ensure those tools don’t exist in the first place. Mass deletion of posts opens the door to **narrative revisionism**—something we fundamentally oppose. If your concern is public association, the solution is simple: stay anonymous and avoid self-doxxing (*just like you’re doing now*.) And if you truly want to step away from the platform, that’s totally fine. You can simply log out and stop posting. It has the same effect as deletion—without introducing the very tools that could one day be used to erase truth.
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witness
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3/23/2025, 10:34:19 PM
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The issue with reddit (and other social media) is the top down censorship. Your commitment to free expression is something no main stream platform is going to offer. That's great. What's not so great (imo) is how far away from user sovereignty over their contributions and account these decisions are leaning. This whole thing about "deleting is an illusion" is true in absolute terms. Like I'm sure all the social media accounts I deleted 15+ years ago still hold all my data, and if the CIA or Palantir or whatever really want my posts from 15 years ago, they will be able to get them. But most of us aren't playing those games at those levels, wayback doesn't index everything, we're just regular people with regular jobs who may need to dodge schizo keyboard warriors and keyboard activists or local LE. Being able to delete your account for privacy or any other reason seems like the minimum standard of care of a user-centric platform could provide. From your perspective I suppose I can see why this is a non-issue. You're already out there, everything you say on your pod/platform is irreversible. For people who do what you do, that's a good thing and it's also why not everyone can do what you do. That's your niche. So to hold casual users who just want to shoot the shit on social media to that standard. That's a big ask and for what reason. I think it's ultimately going to prevent widespread uptake of this platform. I could be wrong, maybe people really do want to be held to the same level of radical accountability you are, it's still early days. I do think you could facilitate user deletion of accounts without removing posts and your radical accountability approach would still be mostly intact. Rather than asking people to go make burner email accounts, change email on the account then go back and delete the email burner account. Just let them delete the username (and email), you don't need to continue holding that if people want to leave. Anyway, I appreciate you taking the the time to put your thoughts down. For me there's just a fundamental sovereignty issue here, who owns an account, who owns a contribution. In the current model there's a significant asymmetry in the ownership dynamic. Not everyone is going to see it like that but hey, I wish you all the best! I think your heart is in the right place, so I hope it works out. 🙏
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anthony27
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3/24/2025, 6:47:31 AM
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It's really this simple. Anything you post on the internet is there forever. I mean even civilians can use the wayback machine. You think the boys in blue don't have something more sophisticated? If you were here and something illicit happened and you don't want to be associated with it.. and you didn't engage... You're good. Whether you delete or not, it's still there. Account deletion, throw your computer against a wall, light yourself on fire (Joke); it's always going to be there. Whether you have the ability to delete your account or not, zero difference. They wouldn't give you the ability to delete emails on your computer and text messages on your phone if it actually mattered.
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witness
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3/24/2025, 8:49:02 AM
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Wayback doesn't index everything and no local plod is getting an international warrant for internal system archive data from Meta for your public nuisance charges, they can't even get your local ISP data (or can't be bothered). And no you're definitely not good if you're doxxed and from either your name or handle across platforms. Privacy and association is just one point, the other concern (and maybe it's just my concern) is the user sovereignty over their contributions to the platform. I don't see anyone making the argument that not being able to delete anything from the internet ever would make the internet better or safer in some way. Like.. that's the thing we're saying is not good that reddit et al. "pretend" to let you delete your contributions/account, so if we agree that's not ethical I don't know why soj.ooo is going out of it's way to be anti-user in this regard more so than every supposedly evil mainstream platform that at least gives you the public desktop privacy tools to remove your own account.
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justsomeguy
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3/26/2025, 6:02:50 PM
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I think I might know why and I thank you as I may not know after tomorrow. Aren't secrets so fun lol
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kelspeth
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3/27/2025, 5:24:25 AM
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wot dat mean mate are you implying matt is a glowie saar ?
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justsomeguy
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3/27/2025, 5:39:31 PM
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Doesn't matter, but I think I'm ok #bigmacsamandsis
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justsomeguy
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3/28/2025, 1:29:54 AM
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And if someone could find my fat gay friend Zach somewhere dropped off by Penn Psych Institute at a shelter in York Pennsylvania. Budaroo got anger problems might be a tranny now. Sorry if I'm talking to much but I'll try to stay quiet anymore
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3/28/2025, 1:30:27 AM
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Zach got dropped off in May 2 years ago
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