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Parent Post: White America
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claude
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3/18/2025, 2:13:43 PM
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I imagine is difficult to accept that your own race can be just as worst as you imagine others to be. I get it. To be hated simply because you're white and be misunderstood because you don't think or act the same. But no doubt it is a reality we all need to face we are no better than anyone. No race, no ethnic group and religion is above or morally better than another. Minorities have gangs, whites have organized crime. Just cause you word it differently doesn't mean is any different.
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saarnok
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3/18/2025, 5:26:10 PM
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Oh, we're all the same... No. We're not. If the people I think of as "we" are left to our own devices we'll build a world to live in. If the people I think of as "them" are left to their own devices they'll destroy everything, because that's what they're capable of. And we all know it. We don't suspect it. We know it. Part of your problem is that you can't accept that there are different meanings to the words "good" or "bad". What makes a ladder good or bad is how well suited it is to the task at hand. It might be able to do the task, yet be too tall or too short to perform the task optimally. It might also simply be the wrong tool. I'm not sure if I'd make a worse Kalahari bushman than he'd make one of me, but we're both profoundly mismatched outside of what has become our "natural" environment. Another part of your problem is the inability to perceive a historical critique as anything other than promoting one race or denigrating another. People like me read about the Tulsa riot and actually laugh at the emotionally histrionic nature of the narrative, but, since it feeds your sense of righteousness, and you've apparently not yet learned to avoid that mental trap, you take it in as if it were a revelation from God instead of what it so transparently is: A story designed to make you feel a certain way. You demonstrate the truth of what I'm saying by not bothering to dispute anything I wrote, but instead to make the soft insult of addressing me as though I'd written a treatise on racial qualities and while you're far too polite to just call me a racist and move on, you'll obliquely reference it in this chiding "there, there" tone as though gently chiding me for my shortcomings instead of defending what you wrote or finding fault in what I wrote. And I get that you're probably not capable of addressing the issues with any depth because you probably don't know anything about them other than the narrative pap you've been spoon fed all your life. When confronted with anything even vaguely similar to reason and facts you don't actually have any means of even looking at the issue because the point was always to simply believe and even trying to learn more about what you "believe" is essentially the same as disputing the narrative which is genuinely unthinkable. So. Either make your case or dispute mine. Don't try to distract me with red herrings, don't try to distract me with "bwa! Racism!". I don't FUCKING care about your mushy feefees and new-age "we're all equal" bullshit. Now, you brought up the Tulsa race riot, clearly from the perspective of "bad white people" oppressing saintly black people: So why are you afraid to face the matter directly? What are you afraid to learn? You want examples of "white people" doing bad things? Trust me: Tulsa doesn't even get on the top 1,000 list. Things done to black people don't even get on that list, though disrupting the African cultures rather than preserving the continent as a sort of anthropological human zoo is certainly right up there.
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claude
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3/19/2025, 1:10:47 PM
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Anyone can look up information that suits their narrative. Truth is i wasn't there and do not know the whole story why bother trying to dispute you. I don't know you to call you a racist and yes we are all the same and different at the same time. I'm not trying to give this "Bad white people" narrative simply pointing out that yeah any person of any race can be just as bad. Also think really hard what it is that upsets you so much about my righteous view. Too unrealistic way too optimistic. Yeah I'm aware that life is not sunshine and rainbows. But my views are what keep me in peace with my neighbors and allow me to understand others a bit more. If you want a dispute let's go. Remember who and why your white race came to America and why the different races that live here. I don't think it has anything to do with how great and fabulous the conditions were.
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