hyokkim · p/freethinkers · 7/11/2025, 8:36:31 AM

Difference between a great man, and a 'hero'............

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kumir_al-stabya · 7/11/2025, 12:43:15 PM · permalink

Yes the modern definition of hero is just a beta cuck, and the morals that go with it are nothing more than gay commie shit when you get to the crux of their(writers &amp; producers) ethos, the modern definition of hero is most certainly wrong and promotes only weakness disguised as greatness. Which is what I think you are trying to say with the not "being nice to women and dumb animals." But just to exhaust the possibilities of what you mean, are you specifically saying that being nice to women and dumb animals is a bad thing? Or are you saying that they are not signs of greatness and is superficial? Because that sentiment is wrong, as kindness is not a superficiality it's an important part of not being a dumb animal yourself and is a demonstrative quality in someone who is actually a "great man". I agree that the measure of greatness of a person shouldn't be wholly based on how kind they are, and it isn't in reality, in reality it is based on what one idealizes as greatness and comparing a person with that, their(nu Marxists) idea of a great man is a black lesbian woman or one that simply shuts up and dies so the diverse woman can monologue or something and has no basis in reality.  
  
I feel you are speaking more about the commie propaganda itself other than the idea that we should not be kind to others, and so with that in mind, I agree that in modern writing the "hero" always has to respect all women, champion all minorities, rescue all the retards etc etc, and all of these ideas come from the "we are all the same" mentality that there is no difference between men and women and the rest of the drivel, this is their idea of kindness and not what kindness actually is. Even though it is not necessary, asking consent(in any situation that requires it) is a kindness and being kind to dumb animals goes without saying, even though these are things used in their propaganda, it is still a good thing to be kind, and not being a rapist is being kind.  
  
There is a difference between the whole "consent" thing and rape, the whole idea of consent( in relation between a man and a woman) is just feminist propaganda and is entirely manufactured, if a woman wants you to fuck them, you wont need to get their consent. But this gets defined as rape in todays world, when it isn't, and a whole bunch of other things are now defined as "sexual assault" when they aren't, such as "wolf whistling" and other retarded things, all of these pointless extra definitions do nothing but diminish its original societal idea of just being, one forcing themself on a another or bridal abduction if you want to go old school, all the while making it harder for women who actually are raped to ever get any kind of justice because of all the bullshit and propaganda which infects every aspect of society.  
  
There is no good reason to rape someone, ever, the only reason is and always will be personal gratification and that is not a great reason, it is the antithesis of what greatness is, if you have to rape women, then women don't want you, how can a man that women don't want be a great man? A man that women do not want, is by definition a beta and not very great.  
  
This is not an example of greatness:  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_the_Sabine_women  
  
It is the same for people who order the mass murder of those who don't agree they live in utopia, the men who fought and died for their homes and ideals are far greater than the dumb animals who killed them and the cowards who ordered them and the jews that paid them. People who also abuse animals for no reason don't deserve to have sentience and should be hanged. (I do not consider necessary experimentation to be animal abuse if there is no other way to gain the answers it would provide.)  
  
Being kind is not the same as being a modern hero nice guy™, not imposing your will on other living creatures shows restraint and shows that you yourself are not a dumb animal, not endlessly satiating your own wants and desires at the detriment of others again is a sign of greatness. Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Stalin, were following no higher purpose other than their own wants and desires, there were no "bigger fish to fry", that is not greatness it is selfishness.   
  
You are rightfully saying the modern definition of a hero is wrong, it is, it is pure faggotry in all honesty, but being kind to others has been co opted by these people to mean: be a cuckold to everyone who isn't you, the examples of great men though....  A good example would have been James Bond, albeit not real, James Bond is one of the best modern day role models for men, excluding all the "modern audience" revisions to his character I mean the classic Bond created by Ian Flemming. He is kind to women and dumb animals but they still get a bitch slap or put down when it's deserved, he rarely if ever gets consent(for anything) and is not a rapist, and serves king and country, which on face value is a noble cause, truly a great man if he was real.

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hyokkim · 7/11/2025, 6:00:16 PM · permalink

''But just to exhaust the possibilities of what you mean, are you specifically saying that being nice to women and dumb animals is a bad thing?''  
  
I had already said:  
  
''Now, I believe great man should try to be nice to women and dumb animals, so long as it doesn't detract from higher purpose. Unfortunately, some great men are not nice to women and dumb animals even when it would not have detracted from the higher purpose they were pursuing.'' - Hyok Kim  
  
'' is a demonstrative quality in someone who is actually a "great man".''  
  
Not necessarily.  
  
''I feel you are speaking more about the commie propaganda itself other than the idea that we should not be kind to others, and so with that in mind, I agree that in modern writing the "hero" always has to respect all women, champion all minorities, rescue all the retards etc etc, and all of these ideas come from the "we are all the same" mentality that there is no difference between men and women and the rest of the drivel, this is their idea of kindness and not what kindness actually is.''  
  
Man, you're reading my mind, but it goes a little more than that.  
  
'' Even though it is not necessary, asking consent(in any situation that requires it) is a kindness and being kind to dumb animals goes without saying, even though these are things used in their propaganda, it is still a good thing to be kind, and not being a rapist is being kind.''  
  
I agree with your sentiment.  However, I don't think it has little relevance to being a great man.   Plus, I would not ask for consent from worthless people if I were strong enough, and they were not useful enough; I would not be kind to dumb animals that are nasty, such as these.  
  
https://www.foxnews.com/us/deputies-watched-dogs-eating-rib-cage-of-virginia-woman-22-during-mauling-sheriff-says  
  
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dogs-fatally-mauled-tennessee-toddlers-injured-mom-never-violent-friend-says  
  
'' it is still a good thing to be kind, and not being a rapist is being kind.''  
  
Nomadic tribes had no problem raping the women of the enemy tribes after defeating them, who had raped their women before.  
  
''There is a difference between the whole "consent" thing and rape, the whole idea of consent( in relation between a man and a woman) is just feminist propaganda and is entirely manufactured, if a woman wants you to fuck them, you wont need to get their consent. But this gets defined as rape in todays world, ...''  
  
Why I stick to prostitutes; virtually impossible to accuse me of rape.  
  
''There is no good reason to rape someone, ever, the only reason is and always will be personal gratification and that is not a great reason, it is the antithesis of what greatness is, if you have to rape women, then women don't want you, how can a man that women don't want be a great man?''  
  
Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, and Stalin had had no problem ordering/allowing mass rapes.    Women don't decide what makes a great man; they can recognize/accept a great man, or refuse to recognize a great man.  
  
Great man is defined by his accomplishment at the end; he does not need a great reason to commit mass murder/rapes.   
  
''This is not an example of greatness:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_the_Sabine_women''  
  
But, without it, Rome could not have become a great nation: It was necessary.  
  
''It is the same for people who order the mass murder of those who don't agree they live in utopia,....''  
  
It depends on the nature of utopia.  
  
''the men who fought and died for their homes and ideals are far greater than the dumb animals who killed them and the cowards who ordered them''  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Tyre_(332_BC)  
  
''People who also abuse animals for no reason don't deserve to have sentience and should be hanged.''  
  
I don't believe in abusing animals, period, other than nasty dogs.   However, who would hang Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Stalin if they had decided to abuse animals for no reason.  
  
''Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great, Stalin, were following no higher purpose other than their own wants and desires, there were no "bigger fish to fry", that is not greatness it is selfishness.''  
  
Great men have the right to be selfish, so long as they are able.  
  
''He is kind to women and dumb animals but they still get a bitch slap or put down when it's deserved, ....''  
  
Sometimes a little too much for my taste.     
  
''he rarely if ever gets consent(for anything) and is not a rapist, and serves king and country, which on face value is a noble cause, truly a great man if he was real.''  
  
Great men have committed rapes, and ordered mass rapes on occasion.   Great men do not serve anyone other than himself ultimately, in the end.    British monarchy at the time of James Bond was no longer fit to be served by even your great men.   It outlived its usefulness.  
  
Besides, you forget about Iran.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

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Difference between a great man, and a 'hero'............

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