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Parent Post: What does Freenode have in common with soj.ooo ???
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mr.virgilian
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2/10/2026, 2:59:58 AM
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It's unwelcome because of the incentives that have been set up. My reading of the behaviors here is that the closer you get to the point that power which was promised comes to actually being allocated the more desperate people who want that power will act in order to maximise their piece of the hypothetical governance pie. So I would say there's a lot of people in your shoes who joined because Matt Kim>Free Speech>Pro-US>Christian values but actually you've been signed up to a social experiment revolving around a cryptic power game. But it's fascinating how this is a lot like real political dynamics with participants in power to power to systems.
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gracejoy
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2/10/2026, 5:42:21 PM
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Do you know from whom all the bumps come? . "*It's unwelcome because of the incentives that have been set up*." I wonder if when the popular people here post warnings, they're posting ones unrelated to, or a distraction from, the specifics to be used here for control? . "...*the closer you get to . promised \[power\] . being allocated the more desperate people . will act in order to maximise their piece*..." I've noticed that, though the insider's club has all along pushed out those who won't join, or at least flatter, their faction. I dislike & distrust blockchain, tokens, crypto, etc.; but since I never used them & don't understand them, I don't understand how value is fabricated, or how soj does, or will, make money (unless power & control are the purpose). That said, how can there be any value if only a small # of people are allowed to post (due to Ad Hominem & other attacks)? . "...*I would say there's a lot of people in your shoes who joined because Matt Kim>Free Speech>Pro-US>Christian values but actually you've been signed up to a social experiment revolving around a cryptic power game* ... *a lot like real political dynamics with participants in power to power to systems.*" Myself, I agree. My biggest concern is that some popular posters are pushing to make known our personal info, to know where we live. One specifically targets me, personally; & those in power mock, castigate, slander, or ignore me when I voice concern. I agree about the feel of "political dynamics," probably "corporate" ones, too. My most pressing concern is what danger exists for those of us who want to opt out, now that a bait & switch is apparent, regarding any data the site has collected? I see some say there's danger, while those who've harassed me say there's none. What is your opinion?
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2/11/2026, 9:39:15 PM
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The bumps don't look real, but only Andrew would know. In terms of money if we look at Andrew's business methodology you would expect that he has (or will) monetize this platform in some way whether directly or indirectly. He's not a philanthropist, he's extracting some value from this place and I don't think it's limited to selling you VPNs. Though, he almost certainly will sell the VPN once the accumulated book of business is large enough to attract a suitably large buyer. I don't think you're in any direct danger from Andrew or his business partners. But they are indifferent to your rights and wellbeing as a human so right now I woule say the biggest personal danger to you is the other users here. You won't be able to delete your account or data from the platform best you can do is leave and not come back.
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gracejoy
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2/19/2026, 6:33:41 PM
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My guess is that those who use both digital soj & its VPN will provide much data, the "new gold." Thanks for the insights.
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