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10/18/2025, 9:32:54 AM
Colonialism 2.025 Exhibit A
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gracejoy
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10/18/2025, 6:46:04 PM
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Sad state of affairs.
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q2025
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10/18/2025, 7:48:23 PM
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Sadly, its karma This is exactly how so many 3rd world countries are run by the us. Compromise the President/Prime Minister, parliamentarians, a few top judges, a few top generals and then appoint loyalists in the media, justice dept, police depts etc and they'll run a repressive regime for years and sell you their own country for pennies. And Israel has done the exact same thing here
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gracejoy
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10/18/2025, 9:18:10 PM
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**It's not** "**US**" **bankrupting Americans & destroying America**, **it's generations of illuminati bloodlines buying / blackmailing** politicians; **using** their knowledge, reach, corporations, banks, & international groups like the **UN & WHO to corrupt** men wherever possible. Those who couldn't be bought were often **murdered**: **Gaddafi** is the most obvious example; but there's also leaders who conveniently died after refusing to **force vaccinate their people**, like in Haiti, Tanzania & Zambia. **Some are able to resist, like** [**Belarusian President** Lukashenko](https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/belarusian-president-claims-imf-world-bank-offered-him-a-bribe-to-impose-covid-restrictions/), who turned down a $940M bribe from the **World Bank & IMF** to lockdown during the plandemic. . "*Israel has done the exact same thing here*" Where is "*here*"? **UAE, Saudi Arabia, & Qatar are all in league w/Israel**. In fact, they, as well as US, EU, & **most every other country** is under the control of **Stakeholder Capitalism, or Public** (Gov't) **- Private** (billionaires, corporations, banks, investors) **Partnerships**. **IOW, it's global, promulgated by the WEF, which is the business arm of the UN**. Don't forget that **Jared will be building Gaza back better w/[Saudi-funded Affinity](https://soj.ooo/p/compromisedamerica/post/ab854ff86062a9cd0c6feb9f2f2b3451/comment/86774)**. You might be interested in a Comment I made outlining Jared's interest in Gaza, via [Bibi's Vision 2035](https://soj.ooo/p/compromisedamerica/post/ab854ff86062a9cd0c6feb9f2f2b3451/comment/86702) (scroll down a bit). And comments re **[UAE's partnership](https://worldisraelnews.com/netanyahu-uae-deal-will-bring-massive-investment-to-negev/#disqus_thread) w/Israel for agritech** in the Negev desert; & **[UAE's involvement](https://worldisraelnews.com/blinken-us-eager-to-work-with-revitalized-pa-government/) since Bush for a technocratic gov't for Gaza**. And **Qatar** **loaned Elon money for Twitter**; bailed out the **[Kushners 666 Fifth Ave](https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/)** building (they were forced); is **partnered w/[Bill Gates & Jewish](https://worldisraelnews.com/israel-will-under-no-circumstances-end-war-for-hostage-deal/#comment-6451519188) businessmen**; & more. I've posted about those countries, especially **Qatar**, **as Centers for WEF's 4th Industrial Revolution of Automation, Robotics, & AI** (C4IR); but I unfortunately lost most of my bookmarks when my computer died (Best Buy didn't transfer them all to the new one😢); & it will take a while until I get to combing through yrs of comments to find the articles again. And my guess is that **Jared, Ivanka, & all the entertainers who visited Southern Israel after Oct 7 are invested in its build back better.** **The end goal is transhumanism**, **w[only 500M remaining](https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-the-georgia-guidestones/) humans**, most of who will be working as slaves for the elite, **tending to the robots & AI** that will replace us. Think of all the elite working to live forever (even Jared said his generation may be the first for that); consider all the "illnesses" caused by Big Pharma, toxins in food, water, & air (experiments & murder); the "wildfires" & geoengineered flooding; etc. **They're creating [a new AI religion](https://slaynews.com/news/wef-ai-rewrite-bible-create-religions-actually-correct/)** to replace the rest, says Yuval Harari. **Gaza is a beta test**, to be combined w/what's done in other countries in order to **digitally imprison** all who survive. **Watch at least 5 minutes of this hour long video to hear about the Great Culling of the Useless Eaters**. 
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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10/19/2025, 9:28:18 AM
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"It's not "US" bankrupting Americans & destroying America," Is the above the way to try absolve onerself of personal responsibility? Because ignorance and acquiescence are what create breeding ground for this.... "it's generations of illuminati bloodlines buying / blackmailing politicians;"
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gracejoy
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10/19/2025, 11:40:47 AM
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"...*try absolve onerself of personal responsibility ... ignorance & acquiescence . create . this..*" **%%Projection%%**: You isolating one sentence or word as excuse to obsessively accuse me of being personally responsible for America's collapse 🙄 isn't a valid argument against for anything. In fact, it's your deliberate deflection & distraction from all the info promotes "*ignorance & acquiescence*"🤔 **%%Deflection%%**: @q2025 also mentioned **PMs & parliamentarians**: YOUR country, UK🤔. **%%Distraction%%**: Do you approve **Saudi, Qatari, & UAE** complicity🤔 b/c you love **Islam**?
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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10/19/2025, 12:42:39 PM
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Oh my God.... you been watching some of Chris Hughes recently 😂😂😂, and now think you've got it figured out. You need some help, maybe even just some human contact would help.
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q2025
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10/20/2025, 1:24:05 AM
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Chris Hughes 😂
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gracejoy
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10/24/2025, 5:41:07 PM
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So funny, deflecting from the elite. I & my country are blessed to have friends such as you two, defending Jared's business w/Sauds, UAE, & Qatar from me👍
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q2025
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10/25/2025, 12:56:17 AM
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Ive never deflected from blaming the elite and Ive never defended Jared, Saudia, Qatar or UAE. In fact I often call them out those as zionist puppets and I've blamed most of the worlds problems on the elites, the billionaires and the cabal. 🙏
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gracejoy
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10/25/2025, 12:09:54 PM
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"*Ive never deflected from*..." **IOW**, you only encourage others doing so? **OR**, was 😂at the implied insult to me (to deflect from the deflection of Illuminati bloodlines; Jared; & elites in UK, Saudi / Qatari / UAE) simply a manifestation of "*good hearts*" vibe-ing together?  . . **OR**, was 😂 at it (the deflection from the deflection from such things) b/c you also scapegoat Americans, **or** share personal animus toward me? **OR** do Muslims naturally join pagans deflecting from such things in order [to persecute 😂 People of the Book](https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/bc223f96cb8415641ba88be4268a4a1f%E2%80%8B)? **OR** are rumors correct, that Islam's *Allahu akbar* is not the same as the One in the OT & NT?  . . **OR**, since Islam "fixed" the wrongs in the OT & NT, are pagans righteous for mocking them? **Regardless**, please [read this thread](https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/2092bf1adcaf2de0f8fb557e3d17f3fa) (skim, at least. It's not long) & **explain**, from a Muslim perspective, how a pagan is correct that I, a Bible-believing Christian, am a "*Talmud worshiper*" for not rejecting the Bible. You'll **notice**, in the thread, **Catholics are exempt** from the charge, apparently, so **I'll ask**: **Is there a symbiosis** between Catholicism & Islam about which I've been unaware? Beyond worship of Mary, or other rumors? Are you, as a Muslim, also guilty of thinking yourself to be "*above others*," **OR** only me? **Finally**, which rosary would you choose, as offered at the bottom of the thread? (from the Trinity of Jesus, Mary, & the Spirit, represented as an upside-down dove🤔) 
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q2025
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10/26/2025, 5:08:03 PM
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Grace, I really wish you the best and have no ill feeling for you. But you'll give yourself a stroke if you take every message so seriously The 😂 was at the Chrish Hughes reference, nothing more nothing less. No insult implied or intended, no deflection desired, no deeper meaning. If you have any questions about islam ill be happy to answer. I really don't get into catholic vs anti catholic arguments because its not my place to do. And im not sure what you meant by symbiosis beyond worship of Mary, but muslims do not worship Mary. We respect her and consider her to be one of God's favorites and thats about it. Wish you a blessed Sunday
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gracejoy
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10/26/2025, 6:34:21 PM
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**%%What was so funny about a Chris Hughes reference%%?** It was used to dismiss my rejection of his claim that I'm personally responsible for everything you'd written; & to deflect from what I'd written about Jared; Illuminati; or S.A., Qatar, & UAE's partnership w/Israel. . "...*every message so seriously.*.." **Like when you took my comment about Sneako so** "***seriously***" that you ignored the copious info I'd written in order to address the first line by assuring me it's OK for Muslim men to hug scantily-clad kafirs? **You even threw in a quote from Paul** on women & hair covering, irrelevant & out of context, **though you'd previously dismissed an argument** of mine **b/c it included a couple of Paul's quotes**. . "*If you have any questions about islam ill be happy to answer.*" I asked, you ignored: **ONE question was related to the screenshot, if Muslims approve pagans mocking the Bible** since Islam said the books were corrupted. **Simply, did you approve the comment** "*making fun of the Bible . Like the Bible isn't some man made construction and fabrication, that soft minds droll over to find meaning in the world... ...you have no fuckin idea whether the shit you put your faith into is legitimate or not, but try to act as if it is. You think you're above others because of some magical words in a book that you follow.*.."? How do you decide one thing is "*serious*," & another not? What gives you the authority &/or insight to make that decision for me? Why do foreigners pretend to care about America, then denigrate Americans?
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q2025
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10/26/2025, 7:13:55 PM
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No. Islam does not support pagans mocking the bible. It condemns it. And eventhough the books have been corrupted, as proven by scholars and accepted by the church, they are still sacred for muslims for the original passages and verses within them. 🙏
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q2025
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10/26/2025, 7:17:52 PM
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That said, everyone has a right to their opinion and I'm not here to police people. If I feel I can offer something helpful or useful, I try. Otherwise I try to stay out of most posts.
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gracejoy
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11/2/2025, 3:36:47 PM
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"...*a right to their opinion . I'm not here to police . If I \[can't\] . offer . helpful or useful . I try to stay out...*" **Yet you** **chose to join in** 😂 at the Chris Hugh reference, meant to demean me in order to deflect from the info I gave on Illuminati, Sauds, Qatar, UAE, Jared, & Israel. . "...*you'll give yourself a stroke \[taking\] every message so seriously. The* 😂 *was at . Chrish Hughes . nothing more \[or\] less. No insult implied . intended, no deflection . \[or\] deeper meaning.*" If you cared, you'd have responded to my info, not 😂 at a reference meant to deflect from it by insulting me. You'd not have given me the runaround to pretend otherwise. **Perhaps** the Illuminati, Sauds, UAE, Qatar, Jared, & Israel **wouldn't be a problem today if more people took them seriously, rather than joining to 😂 at people who care enough to object**, even in the face of such opposition.
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q2025
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11/2/2025, 7:16:09 PM
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Im quite sure Thoughtcriminal and I hate the illuminati, Saudis, Qatari, Jared & Israel as much as you Grace. But remember, Christians can disagree with each other on the finer points of dogma while being members of the same flock. Same way, good, moral people can have varying viewpoints about certain topics and the level of truth and rationality behind specific events and people. To expect that all good people will agree with you 100% or that people won't spar and banter would be unrealistic in my opinion. That said, my intention was not to insult or ridicule, and I apologize if you felt slighted 🙏
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gracejoy
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11/3/2025, 4:30:53 PM
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"*I'm quite sure* *TC & I hate Illuminati, Saudis, Qatari, Jared & Israel*..." It's why you😂at his deflecting from them by saying "Chris," & that I "*need some help.*" You insist there's "*no insult implied or intended, no deflection . deeper meaning*," while giving runarounds instead of a viable alternative. **You mock even Islam** w/such outrageous, bold-faced lies. ·•—–٠✤٠—–•· "..*. Christians can disagree . Same way, good, moral people can ... To expect . all . will agree . 100% . unrealistic*" You're "*quite sure*" **you & he hate those I exposed, so what** "***disagreement***"? **I'm** Christian; **you're** Muslim; **TC**, New Age Pantheist. **What relevance is** "Christians" & "good people" **disagreeing**? If ever @tajudeen\_bin\_tijani gets me thinking maybe the problem isn't Islam, *per se*, you remind me of *taqiyya*. ·•—–٠✤٠—–•· "*That said, my intention was not to insult or ridicule, and I apologize if you felt slighted 🙏*." **My charge is that you *intentionally***😂**at Ad Hominem used to distract** from my rejecting tc's regular deflection (blame-shifting onto me). **Straw Man**: It's not feeling "slighted," **it's regular deflection from info** by scapegoating me. It reminds me of **Zios: Someone like you joins**😂**to snowball distraction & intimidate dissenters**. For **ex., when Ari** (Hamburg, Germany Jew) **demanded Americans embrace the Nazi Salute** to prove we love "liberty" & have no "taboos" (& to counter Communists / Muslims by **starting a race war**); & **Isaac joined** (other foreigners, too): 
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q2025
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11/3/2025, 4:48:43 PM
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You've been fuming over a 😂 for two weeks? How is that normal? And how can that be good for your health? Please, for your own sake, forget about it and move on. I already clarified that I simply found the comment funny and meant no disrespect to you. I even said I apologize if you felt offended. I found the comment funny. Thats all. Not sure how else I could possibly explain this to you.
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gracejoy
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11/3/2025, 4:55:54 PM
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^ Repeated Straw Man: I'm not "fuming," I'm not accepting your gaslighting & dishonesty. To be clear: **Your inability** to "possibly explain" how you find it "funny" **reminds me of Israelis saying that their killing of Gaza's civilians is unintentional**.
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gracejoy
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10/26/2025, 6:46:14 PM
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Also, @q2025, go to the OP so you can see the conversation in another thread. Perhaps you can explain how mention of Chris Hughes is 😂, when used to support the rest, including one you saw. They're all related, to deflect from all the things I mentioned, about which you claim to also object, (when you're not dismissing them as not "serious" enough to bother with). Unless you mean to mock Islam, try addressing my questions directly, rather than telling me that what I wrote isn't "serious" enough to notice🙄
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