morpheus33 · p/everythings_a_conspiracy · 7/6/2026, 9:56:50 PM

Seedless fruits and vegetables, what's the end game?

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dickie · 7/7/2026, 11:15:09 AM · permalink

Seedless watermelon is not really the central mechanism here.

Seedless watermelons are sterile triploid hybrids, so you generally cannot save viable seed from the fruit. But plenty of ordinary hybrid garden plants also will not reproduce true from saved seed. Monsanto is not even an independent company anymore. Bayer completed its acquisition in 2018.

The larger concern is real, but it is much bigger than whether a watermelon has black seeds.

Most people are not actually food-independent even if every grocery-store melon came with a thousand seeds. They depend on electricity, diesel, fertilizer, machinery, irrigation, farm labor, cold storage, trucking, warehouses, clean water, sanitation, and a functioning retail system.

The fruit is modern society. The vine is the industrial supply chain.

Cut the vine and the fruit dies.

Nobody has to ban backyard gardens or genetically engineer every cucumber to control the food supply. We already built a system where most people could not feed themselves for long without the grid, fuel, transportation, and millions of workers they never think about.

Save heirloom seed. Grow food. Support local farms. Those are sensible ways to build resilience.

But the Mad Max watermelon grind does not begin because a seedless melon cannot be replanted. It begins when the diesel, power, clean water, or trucking stops.

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morpheus33 · 7/7/2026, 12:01:21 PM · permalink

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serenity · 7/7/2026, 3:33:20 PM · permalink

We can change this.  First of all, we can take it on as people ourselves we can start by teaching the young people that we are related to.  
  
Second, we can also offer the education system, our service voluntarily to teach this subject matter.  
  
Thirdly, there’s actually a new government program not that anybody likes government, but it’s probably the only thing they’re doing right – USDA has a grant program specifically to allow independent farmers to teach agriculture to young people.  This is a brand new program..  
  
Also brand new is a program where certain health institutions can get grant money to Run comparisons of treating chronic disease with prescriptions of fresh fruit, fruits, and vegetable vegetables versus the use of medication.  For patients in this pilot program, they will actually receive government funds to purchase FFV.   Not sure how compliance will be achieved, but I would imagine that the patient selection is Key. One can only pick Patience who will stick with the program.

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serenity · 7/7/2026, 3:33:44 PM · permalink

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sacredcow · 7/7/2026, 11:49:26 AM · permalink

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j.k.harwood2 · 7/7/2026, 3:41:33 AM · permalink

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Seedless fruits and vegetables, what's the end game?

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