Comment on Billionaires are not our friends. Example: Elon is partnered w/Gov't to enslave the masses by gracejoy

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gracejoy · 9/15/2025, 5:56:19 PM · permalink

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I'd not heard of that before. It seems to me that there's an overlap &amp; fluidity among many terms, each w/its own specialty. Yours inspired me to search the difference between Plutocracy &amp; Oligarchy:  
  
 %%**AI Search Assist**%%: "**Plutocracy** is a system of gov't where power is held by the wealthy ... **oligarchy** refers to a gov't controlled by a small group, regardless of their wealth. Essentially, **all plutocracies are oligarchies, but not all oligarchies are plutocracies**, as the latter specifically emphasizes wealth as the basis of power."  
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**%%From your link%%**: "In the political jargon &amp; propaganda of Fascist Italy, Nazi Germany &amp; the Communist International, Western democratic states were referred to as **plutocracies**, with the implication being that **a small number of extremely wealthy individuals were controlling** the countries &amp; holding them to ransom. ...Some modern historians, politicians, &amp; economists argue that the **U.S. was effectively plutocratic for at least part of the %%Gilded Age &amp; Progressive Era periods%%** **between the end of the Civil War** \[April 12, **1861** **–** May 26, **1865**\] **until the beginning of the Great Depression**. ...**The %%Sherman Antitrust Act%%** had been enacted in **%%1890%%**, when large industries reaching **monopolistic** or near-monopolistic levels of **market concentration** &amp; financial capital increasingly integrating corporations &amp; **a handful of very wealthy heads of large corporations began to exert increasing influence** over industry, public opinion &amp; politics **%%after the Civil War%%**." (under "Concepts" is "**%%Robber baron%%**." See quote at that ends this Comment).  
  
What I underlined in your link caught my attention; &amp; reminded me of...  
  
• May '25. "**Trump** Secures $600B Investment Deal in Saudi Visit. \[He\] **pitches America’s** ‘[**%%Golden Age%%**](https://www.theepochtimes.com/world/trump-pitches-americas-golden-age-to-wealthy-gulf-investors-5857117?ea_src=frontpage&amp;ea_cnt=a&amp;ea_med=lead-story-0-title-0)’ **to wealthy Gulf investors**..."

• "**[The %%Golden Age%%](https://x.com/EscanorReloaded/status/1856351454698574013), the rise of the Antichrist Phoenix, &amp; Donald Trump**." New Age, Theosophy, UN, Kabbalah, Hermeticism, Alchemy, occult mystery schools, book of Revelation, Hegelian Dialectic ... **Order out of Chaos** ([Freemason theme](https://freemasonscommunity.life/ordo-ab-chao/)).
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• [**%%Gilded Age%%**](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilded_Age) was from the "late **%%1870s - late 1890s%%**, which occurred **between the Reconstruction era** \[post Civil War\] **&amp; the Progressive Era**."  
  
• **[John D Rockefeller Sr](https://archive.nytimes.com/learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/may-15-1911-supreme-court-orders-standard-oil-to-be-broken-up/)** (July 8, **%%1839%%** – May 23, **%%1937%%**) "**entered the oil industry in the %%1860s%%**," &amp; founding **the Standard Oil Company in %%1870%%** (remember, the **%%Civil War was 1961 - 1965%%**). By "**%%1911%%**, the Supreme Court ordered \[its\] dissolution . ruling it was in violation of the **%%Sherman Antitrust Act%%**" (to break up the monopoly). [**I started a list of**](https://worldisraelnews.com/poland-locks-up-israelis-after-testing-positive-for-covid/#comment-5551929495) **Rockefeller** "**contributions**;" **but didn't finish** b/c I was overwhelmed by their endless tentacles. Suffice it to say, **Rockefellers' mark is on everything** from the Federal Reserve (**%%1913%%**) to the **%%1918%%** flu to the Holocaust / eugenics to Planned Parenthood to Mengele to UN to corona policies. **Rockefeller founded the UN**, too; &amp; here [I linked **some of its offshoots**](https://worldisraelnews.com/report-biden-admin-backs-un-bid-to-shield-oct-7th-perpetrators-from-prosecution/#comment-6558248733): **WHO** (health); **WEF** (business); **IWM** (Church); **FAO** (agriculture); **CIA** (propaganda); **NATO** (military). Note that "**Lucis Trust**" (mentioned in "the Golden Age" link) **is UN's religious arm** (New Age Theosophy).  
  
• **Technocracy**. **However one names the coming plutocratic** / fascist / oligarchic **state, it will be unlike any gov't we've known**. Rockefeller was a **transhumanist**; &amp; this time, they want to **rule by** "**experts**" whose goal is to live forever, by merging w/machines (WEF's **I**nternet of **B**odies, **IoB**). Humans will be unneccesary, after their **4**th **I**ndustrial **R**evolution of Automation, Robotics, &amp; AI (**4IR**); but until then, our only purpose will be for experimentation. "**Wars**," like the one in Gaza &amp; Ukraine, have as their main purpose **depopulation &amp; practice for a police surveillance state** that will use drones, robots, AI (Palantir) to control us until we're no longer necessary. **For more on Technocracy**, **see the link in my OP** "Elon &amp; WEF's 4IR." The coming "Depression" will help enslave everyone (digital ID, CBDC, etc.)  
  
• **Trilateral Commission**, founded by **Rockefeller**, **1973**, is on of the family's groups that "really makes national &amp; foreign policy." This [2020 membership list](https://freddonaldson.com/2020/01/28/trilateral-commission-2020-membership-list-of-those-who-really-create-american-and-european-national-and-foreign-policy/) gives an idea of its reach.   
  
• **[Tavistock Institute](https://www.ascensionwithearth.com/2017/03/the-manufactured-invention-of-beatles.html)** for Human Behavior, a not-for-profit think tank founded by **Rockefeller**, **1946**, studied how to infuence behavior. It brought us influential bands like the Beatles, Rolling Stones, &amp; Grateful Dead.

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"*Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under %%robber barons%% than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The %%robber baron%%'s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience*." **~C. S. Lewis**

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hyokkim · 9/19/2025, 5:32:23 AM · permalink

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''Fascism is a form of authoriarianism, little different from plutocracy or oligarchy.''  
  
No, fascism is a sworn opponent of both communism, and plutocracy.  
  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_the_Han_River  
  
https://www.harvard-yenching.org/research/between-fascism-and-3rd-world-ism-history-eight-years-following-liberation-focusing/  
  
''Hyperinflation is planned, one more nail in the coffin, along w/"fires" &amp; weather warfare (leading to skyrocketing insurance premiums); job cuts &amp; soaring unemployment; tariffs (starting to hit now, increasing prices); soaring rents &amp; property taxes &amp; mortgages; loads of new housing built badly; corporations taking over single family homes, to rent; etc.''  
  
No body plans hyperinflation; it ends up hurting everyone, including the very rich as well.  It happens because politicians engage in 'entitlement' spending heedless of the consequences, just kicking the can down the road, the fatal disease of Western democracies as it is happening.  
  
https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/48635bc8a1722e425f0f3466de6baf36  
  
https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/3fcd587bf88259dd25787f7ff4e44926  
  
https://soj.ooo/p/freethinkers/post/1314b528e41801a4555c8bcb8042e1ff  
  
![video](https://www.youtube.com/embed/zwAezBziIcU)
  
''Banning foreigners from buying property isn't authoritarianism. Politicians selling public land to the highest bidder, foreign or not, is.''  
  
I am for banning buying homes for speculation, 'investment' purpose, without full time residence more or less permanently.   This will make far more capital available for productive investment.   
  
''Companies joining to counter those in another country isn't authoritarianism.''  
  
I am talking about companies joining together with government mediation to build economy of scale, and to specialize where each company has the advantage; that is true Fascism.  
  
''Regardless, why are you obsessed w/demanding I worship you &amp; fascism? I find your "fascism" to be nothing but endless philosophical arguments, repetitive, unnatractive, pointless, &amp; a waste of time.''  
  
ROK is #1 in steel production technology innovation, thanks to true fascism.  
  
https://www.steelradar.com/en/posco-continues-to-lead-as-the-worlds-most-competitive-steelmaker-for-15-years/  
  
''For what purpose do you obsessively nag me &amp; demand I willingly give up my autonomy?''  
  
You have the right to remain out of touch with reality; I have the right to point that out.

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