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3/24/2025, 10:23:17 AM
Bull in a China Shop
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logical
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3/24/2025, 4:05:01 PM
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Gotta have an enemy to fuel the war machine and keep the money printer busy. What did Reagan say? *"I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world"* Until we can fight the aliens it appears they want us to fight amongst each other.
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3/24/2025, 6:54:02 PM
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Too true buddy. About 10 years back, I had an idealistic brainwave and did a naive exercise. Let's update those numbers... Do you know that with the population density of San Francisco (18,630/sq mile), you could fit the entire planet (8billion) in an area of 429,414 sq miles... less than South Africa. At a population density of Las Vegas (4525/sq mile) you need 1.7 million sq miles to fit 8 billion people. That's a lot less than Brazil or Australia. Shift the population to Australia and use the rest of the world for agriculture, mining, industrial output of necessary items and nuclear power generation etc. Get rid of all defense budgets and all useless industries and the entire world could live easily without even working one hour a day. Yeah, I know, unrealistic and naive but that's the potential, if only you could get rid of defense budgets. Even if you stayed in cities as they are today, You could give every human food, shelter, clothing and energy just by cutting the defense budgets alone. Wishful thinking, but that's why I love [Imagine](https://youtu.be/dT4hLudO-is?si=sudN75o9cqXIDq5q) 
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gracejoy
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11/6/2025, 9:09:48 AM
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"Shift the population to Australia and use the rest of the world for..." They're shifting us into stack & pack cities via [Agenda 21](https://soj.ooo/p/compromisedamerica/post/c25623357101d14d287ebc850feed372). . "*You could give every human food, shelter, clothing and energy*" Yes, it's what they plan in the digital prisons they're building, originally called Smart Cities. FYI: @logical
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logical
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3/24/2025, 7:03:22 PM
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If only the globalists were using power to enact a world such as this, instead of their unending lust for power and control. A controversial man but a beautiful song.
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nevertheless
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3/29/2025, 6:46:29 AM
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Project blue beam is the last card in the deck.
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nevertheless
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3/29/2025, 6:50:23 AM
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China is a bizarre place with enough internal problems to not need to fight the USA for power. The US-China conflict feels manufactured.
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q2025
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3/29/2025, 8:06:18 AM
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Exactly. No country wants a war with USA when they know it'll wreck their economy. Same as it was with Iraw, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan. Easiest way to make money for the war machine is to claim "they hate us; were under threat"
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thoughtcriminal_1984
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3/24/2025, 6:45:30 PM
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Both... And I'm not sure if they're trying to capitalize on negative public sentiments towards China or build negative sentiments.
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truthserum87
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3/24/2025, 1:29:55 PM
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China is the monster the west created. Remember their century of humiliation? It's been taught in schools to stoke nationalist sentiment. Imagine european powers ganging up on china and the japanese empire pretty much made their emperor a fool. A sacred figure being played like a puppet. I don't blame them for feeling hurt because of that but recent history has show how they've learned how to oppress just their colonizers. Case in point the uyghurs, tibetans and mongols as well as their own population. Their unruly behavior in geopolitics is also a projection of their need to carry out their revenge for their "Century of Humiliation". China’s desire to avenge that is not so much about seeking retribution as it is about achieving national restoration and global recognition. The CCP views china's rise as part of reclaiming its place as a dominant global power after over a century of weakness and subjugation but that does not excuse its treatment of protesters, genocide of ethnic of uyghurs and bellicose behavior in ASEAN waters just to name a few. I see you're muslim. China supporting palestine does not mean they are a friend of islam while they're committing crimes against your uyghur brothers. Namely mass detentions, forced sterilization, torture, rape, destruction of mosques, forcing them to eat pork, drink alcohol and pretty much the destruction of the uyghur identity and culture. China supporting palestine is just a political move to endear themselves to muslim world. What they're doing to the uyghurs is the same if not worse than what israel is doing to the palestinians.
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q2025
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3/24/2025, 2:45:19 PM
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Hiya TruthSerum! Yes, you're right, I am muslim. But China supporting Palestine has nothing to do with my observation. Like you mentioned, Chinese treatment of Uyghur negates "Muslim" support. And yes, thats a point on which China deserves condemnation. Though I would add, given how thoroughly we've been lied to, and how anti-Chinese think-tanks are shutting down without USAID support, I'm just now starting to question the extent of that oppression because i know for a fact that Muslims in other parts of China have not been stopped from practicing their faith or forced into any kind of "neutralization" program. But even if we assume that's a fact, it still doesn't explain why American politicians paint China as a threat. After all, no American politician has speaks about human right abuses in Saudi Arabia, India, Pakistan, and many other countries until they have an agenda. Selective moral outrage loses all credibility, especially when it comes from a country that has committed more than its own share of human rights abuses. Your second point about China being bitter about it's century of humiliation is talking point. I swear I've never ever met a Chinese person who still feels any hatred towards US because of something that UK and Portugal did more than a century ago. Plus, again, if you use that argument then US should consider every non-caucasian country in the world as an enemy that wants revenge. Argentina? Mexico? Japan? Spain? Egypt? Native Americans? We don't consider them enemies who want to re-establish their dominance, though USA, or it's western allies, interfered and invaded plenty. So to accept that line of reasoning only when it comes to China would be unfair. Your third point about Chinese dominance in ASEAN countries is invalid for the same reasons. USA didn't complain when the UK, France, Israel, Ukraine etc tried to exert influence anywhere. It's their neck of the woods. If anything, it's America which is way out of its waters by keeping multiple carrier groups on the opposite side of the world, no? But those are all subjective issues. My question remains, has China ever attacked America directly or indirectly through proxy groups? Nope. Has it been found to be undermining the American government or democracy? Nope. Has it done any form of sabotage? Nope. "They hate us because they're jealous of us", "they hate us because they hate our values", "they hate us because another country invaded them in the 1800s", all sound like a hate mongering propaganda to me. Used again and again to make Americans think islam hates them or Afghans hate them or Iraq hate them etc. Truth is, the american government never had the guts to say "we hate them because we don't like their religion or their color or their economic progress or their oil" Were under threat has been America's excuse to interfere everywhere. Fact is, no 5 year old child would ever want to pick a fight with a 25 year old man. Other than Japan and the UK, great powers of their time, no country has ever attacked USA. So the question remains, if even patriotic Americans can't name a single time China actually threatened or attacked USA, why is it painted as a threat? Simple answer: How else would politicians feed the war machine and their appetite for blood.
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kelspeth
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3/24/2025, 2:53:09 PM
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very good retort lad. on the uyghur supposed genocidal treatment ... I need more evidence of it and concrete ones too. we can tell quite easily that izrahel is killing palestinians how come we don't see the same thing in China ?
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truthserum87
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3/24/2025, 4:26:43 PM
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because china is smart and experienced at being discreet about it
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kelspeth
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3/24/2025, 4:37:32 PM
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all societies have things they wanna hide under the rug but all lies are exposed always if there were serious evidences of these things wouldn't the CIA harp it at every mention of the CCP. the fact they just yap about it makes me question the validity of such things
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q2025
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3/24/2025, 4:05:27 PM
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To be honest I always believed it without questioning it till you commented on it just now 🤦 There was one documentary that had footage of some people living in what seemed to be a gigantic, walled, group of mid-rise apartment buildings. Obviously I only watched the highlights like everyone else. Any level of detention based on religion would be wrong. But what the exact level is... yeah, I'm guessing it's nothing like "concentration camp" lingo used. Wish you a great day, Sir. Peace 🙏
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kelspeth
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3/24/2025, 4:17:13 PM
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you too brother
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truthserum87
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3/24/2025, 4:49:11 PM
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https://www.xinjiangpolicefiles.org/
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truthserum87
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3/24/2025, 4:26:02 PM
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Given the lies we've been told about pretty much everything in recent history warrants deep investigation onto whether what's been said about china and any demonized country for that matter is true or not. I don't hate chinese people so there's no bias there. My contention is mostly with the CCP ruling party. I wish china could've been a more morally responsible superpower. Truth is neither china nor my country the US can be truly called good. If you're talking china is better than the US in that it doesn't bomb countries into oblivion and wage proxy wars, then I agree with you. There's that at least. You're also right that strategic interests determine how we handle allies and threats. The US has no integrity to speak of and its hypocrisy can not be overstated considering how it's been a tool of Israel thus far. You're preaching to the choir here basically. That's why I joined this group in the first place. Yeah China's unwarranted behavior in ASEAN waters is partly due them responding to US maritime supremacy but ask any south-east asian fisherman and they prefer UNCLOS over china's code of conduct. China has not conducted themselves in a respectable manner breaching EEZs. Anyhow, pretty much every accusation levied upon other countries, we ourselves are guilty of. I mean think about freedom as an unalienable right our own government violates not just in our own country but abroad by installing puppet rulers and murdering oppositions. Our politicians are bought and paid for. They live in a bubble. Whatever they say is not the reality of things. When they say china is a threat, it's really a petty response to china's growing economy and global influence. The US is envious of that. Remember the US destroyed japan's economy in the 1985 plaza accords so much so japan hasn't been able to recover. Our government couldn't accept any other country to be the number 1 economy. I'm not here to make long winded arguments with you. In conclusion, both countries are guilty for many things for various reasons which are too long to list. Calling a country guiltier than the other, does not exonerate china from its crimes. It's about the truth and not feelings. My sentiment however is that I don't support war and any single innocent death is a complete fail for humanity. That said I believe in a future win-win scenario between US and China and throughout the world.
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coldwave
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3/24/2025, 2:48:42 PM
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They certainly have way too much leverage over a lot of things, like electrical grids... They still haven't even dealt with the police stations in Canada being run by Beijing.
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q2025
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3/24/2025, 3:57:17 PM
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Same logic US applies all over the world. You want our money, you give us leverage. No? I'm not defending China or even advocating for it. I'm just questioning if the hate mongering is justified or not. As for the Chinese police stations in Canada, I wish people would take a closer look.
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kelspeth
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3/24/2025, 2:54:08 PM
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lololol gulf news i never thought i'd see someone else use it 😭😂
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