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Parent Post: For Anyone Still Defending Israel. This Is In Their "Bible"
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ian.l.h
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3/12/2025, 4:33:15 AM
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Why don't you christians ever read your bible. You think Judean religion and people despised Jesus? This following is from the High Priest speaking with the heads of the sanhedrin. John 11:49 But one of them, Caiaphas, who was high priest that year, said to them, "You know nothing at all; you do not understand that it is expedient for you that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation should not perish". They did not despise him, the Jewish elites and Jesus were working together for the nation of Israel. The mythologized story of Rabbi Yeshua ben Yosef aka the man myth Jesus was then sold to Rome. The historian Gates says, "The Jewish creation of christianity was a new form of warfare against Rome."
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sirjhonson
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3/12/2025, 6:11:05 AM
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That's a nice fairy tale you concocted there. Would make a nice novel, maybe you can copyright it, since it's not reality. I will entertain your delusions no longer
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3/12/2025, 6:49:05 AM
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Its from your bible dude.
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sirjhonson
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3/12/2025, 7:18:58 AM
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The passage is, what you added afterward is an extremely misguided interpretation, it's your own made up fairy tale that you tried so hard to connect with scripture but failed. Deception that sounds just like someone straight out of Israel. But I will play your game one more time, completely obliterate your deception and this will be my last reply. I'm tired of having a discussion with people who only have ill intent and refuse the truth. John 11:49-50 (KJV): "And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not." Context and Meaning This passage takes place after Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. His miracles were gaining attention, and many Jews were beginning to believe in Him. The Jewish religious leaders (the Sanhedrin) saw this as a threat, fearing that if too many followed Jesus, the Romans would take action against Israel and destroy the nation. Who Was Caiaphas? Caiaphas was the high priest that year and a key figure in the plot to have Jesus crucified. His statement in John 11:49-50 was spoken during a meeting of the Sanhedrin, where they were debating what to do about Jesus. What Did Caiaphas Mean? Caiaphas was speaking politically. He believed that if Jesus continued to gain followers, Rome might crack down on Judea, bringing destruction upon the Jewish people. His solution? Kill Jesus to "save the nation" from Roman intervention. He thought it was better for one man (Jesus) to die than for the entire nation to be destroyed. The Deeper, God-Ordained Meaning Unknowingly, Caiaphas was prophesying. While he meant that Jesus should die as a political sacrifice, God was actually using his words to reveal the true purpose of Jesus' death. Jesus was also a threat to the power of the jewish leaders at the time. He cracked down on the corrupt religion. He rebuked the Pharisees and scribes for their corruption (Matthew 23). Matthew 21:12-13 – Jesus overturned tables of money changers, saying, “My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.” This was because the Temple was being used for dishonest business, not proper worship. Jesus did die for the people—but not just to prevent a Roman crackdown. He died to save the whole world from sin. John 11:51-52 confirms this: "And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad." Caiaphas didn’t realize that his words were part of God’s divine plan—that Jesus would die as a sacrificial Lamb for the sins of all people. Key Takeaways Caiaphas meant it politically, but God used it prophetically. Jesus' death was not just for Israel, but for the whole world. God’s plan was unfolding, even through His enemies. No, it was not voluntary. No, he was not working with them. Jesus was largely rejected by the religious leaders of His time, particularly the Pharisees, Sadducees, and scribes. While some individuals among them, like Nicodemus (John 3:1-2) and Joseph of Arimathea (Mark 15:43), believed in Him, the majority of the Jewish religious authorities opposed Him and ultimately sought His death. Reasons for Their Rejection: He Challenged Their Authority Jesus criticized their hypocrisy and legalism (Matthew 23:13-36). He accused them of burdening people with man-made traditions instead of following God's commandments (Mark 7:6-9). He Forgave Sins (Claiming Divine Authority) In Mark 2:5-7, Jesus forgives a paralyzed man’s sins, and the scribes say, "Who can forgive sins but God alone?" This was considered blasphemy because only God could forgive sins (Leviticus 24:16). He Performed Miracles on the Sabbath Jesus healed on the Sabbath, which angered the Pharisees (Luke 6:6-11). He declared, "The Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath." (Mark 2:28), implying divine authority. He Associated with Sinners and Tax Collectors The religious leaders condemned Jesus for eating with sinners (Luke 5:30-32). Jesus responded, "I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." He Claimed to be the Son of God In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." The Jews attempted to stone Him for blasphemy (John 10:31-33). The High Priest Prophesied His Death Caiaphas, the high priest, said in John 11:49-50, "It is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not." This shows the leaders saw Jesus as a threat to their control. They Plotted to Kill Him The Pharisees and Sadducees conspired with Judas Iscariot to have Jesus arrested (Matthew 26:3-4, 14-16). They falsely accused Him before Pilate and demanded His crucifixion (Luke 23:1-2, John 19:6-7).
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