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God created the devil and the place of the dead... God knew before the beginning but   
  
1) This life is the the-His objective for life, this is just a temporay phase for development putposes  
2) life itself is created and holds no claim above God nor does God have any special responsibility to life any more so then he has to a rock or a drop of watter. They are all ewually his creations, his sole absolute property  
3) God creates drama by putting things in motion &amp; letting them play out. Others there would be no reality only a cute story or "day dream" in God's mind  
4) a certain kind of Humility is required to understand, approach &amp; please God. Self pride against God will meet a fate he has determined called "burning the trash".   
  
PREDESTINATION &amp; "FREE WILL"

GOD DOES NOT LOVE EVERYONE

Prov 8:17 I love them that love me

Sharp contrast between 3 groups:

(1) “PREDESTINED DAMNED” NEVER written in the book of life ..Rev 17: 8 WHOSE NAMES WERE NOT WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD, …as contrasted …EPH 1: 4. According as he hath CHOSEN US in him BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD

(2) “MANY CALLED”= ONLY &amp; ALL SAINTS (those who come to Christ) R written in the book of life … Philippians 4:3…Rev 21:27; (Only saints R Called &amp; elect; Rom 1:6-7 et al) This is THE CHURCH &amp; ONLY these can have their names blotted out of the book of life.….Heb 12:23 general assembly &amp; CHURCH of the firstborn … WHICH …R WRITTEN in heaven,

(3) THE FEW CHOSEN: Those saints who were alive in group #2 who R now physically dead. They died “faithful” these R the FEW that were chosen faithful….Rev 3:5. &amp; I will not BLOT OUT HIS NAME OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, (Ps 69:28) …. 💥💥These R the FEW that R CHOSEN &amp; SINCE THEY ARE NOW DEAD &amp; SAVED -&gt;ERGO: ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED (OSAS) ONLY AFTER DEATH DOES ONCE SAVE ALWAYS SAVED APPLY- CAN NEVER BE LOST.💥💥

The fact that some were destined for damnation and some were selected to be saved is what the doctrine of ELECTION IS!?! God could have done things differently (you could have been born at a different time and place and or the method could have been different; Unless of course you think you are so inherently good that you would be a follower of Christ no matter what your circumstances could possibly have been; that would be hubris of the greatest magnitude. Mat 11:21 et al) and gotten a completely different set of “saved folks” then the set he has Chosen so When God selected how he was going to do things and knowing the outcome before hand (by name who would be saved and who would be damned) then HE not you decided who would and would not be saved and who would just be damned period without any hope. Grasping this fully requires a certain kind of humility that goes well beyond just the fact your “really sweet old man/women who would not hurt a flea”.

Free will is simply A) options B) ability to eccersise or not options within the context of a limited amount of recorces within a limited matrix of knowledge/control

God is the infinate. Even scripture points out that "in him we live move &amp; have our being." It is simply not possible for the finite limited to determine the infinate in which it exist.

Consider 1) your options &amp; 2) the abilities to excercise options. Who created the options? Who decided you to be born at this time under your conditions-upbringing? Who decided that you would not be a member of some harem 300 yrs ago??.... oh thats right you had no say so whatsoever in who your parents were or the social staus of your family

https://www.scribd.com/document/306868420/Most-True-Christians-Go-to-Hell

https://www.academia.edu/25217564/Most_True_Christains_Go_to_Hell

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